Frank Sinatra (26,413 views)

[Steingrim]

Jun 11, 2022 14:27:40 GMT Dark Star said:

Frank is the perfect example of quality over quantity; sure, his range may not have been the most expansive, but what he did with what he had was excellent. He hit the notes he could hit with great feel, tastefulness and technical finesse. And his communicative abilities and phrasing were second to none. His inflections, tone, and sense of timing can't be beat when it comes to conveying the emotion of a song. His style of music didn't call for range wanking; it's not rock'n roll where the spectacle of fifth octave wailing is appropriate. Even the crooners who could go higher than him (Bennett, Andy Williams, Bobby Darin) didn't do so frequently and really only when a song called for it. To call his son better just because he went a semitone higher than his father's highest comfortable area is a laughable claim, frankly; by that logic Billy Corgan is a better singer than Frank Sinatra. A truly good, smart singer knows their limitations and works with what they have, and Frank was a master at that.

In my opinion, Sinatra is stretching a bit for the G4 in "Fly me to the moon" from 1965. Towards the end of his life he allegedly had to stretch for F4s. According to his thread he usually kept within G2-F4, which was about right for him.

[Bink]

Oct 12, 2020 7:35:34 GMT BAZanine said:

G2 ("Fools Rush In (Where Angels Fear to Tread)")

I very much think this note should be bolded

[fallenalien]

Jun 11, 2022 13:22:40 GMT @ianvector said:

Frank Sinatra Jr. could effortlessly hit an A4, while Frank Sr. could do no such thing. youtu.be/BkZtvP79jjQ&t=3m05s

Frank Sr. definitely had his moments, but I think Frank Jr. was all-around a better singer.

Go outside.

[clem]

Frank Jr. has a very nice voice in his own right. But I feel like if you compare any two skilled singers, you'll find certain things they do better than each other. Frank Sr. is rightly regarded as a contender for having the best vocal delivery in popular music. Whilst his highs had a fairly low ceiling, he was completely able to work around that. I can't think of a Sinatra track that I've heard where his limited upper reaches prevented his other attributes from shining through.

[BAZanine]

Oh yeah so I forgot to mention this when I did it but I took it upon myself to count the G♯4s and B♭4s from "Lucky Strike Song". Just remember, kids: the cringelords of today are the trailblazers of tomorrow.

[IhateMana]

you know there's literally nothing you can do to this thread that will make his range not D2-G#4, right?

[BAZanine]

Sounds to me like someone here misses TRP3.

[queenfan11]

G4 in "River Stay 'Way From My Door":

[slugger]

Are we sure that's enough D4s? I think this section could use FOUR HUNDRED MORE

[senatorsenpai]

In all seriousness I think functionality really starts to get lost once you get past like 20 examples. Is it mainly to preempt people posting a song asking which notes are in it?

[Steingrim]

There are only four bolded D4s, presumably with links. What's the problem ?

[Macca]

I think slugger was being sarcastic

[Steingrim]

Feb 24, 2023 14:08:36 GMT Macca said:

I think slugger was being sarcastic

The list is useful when you want to look up the range of a song sung by that particular singer, I've done that several times.

Sarcasm doesn't work that well on the internet, that's ancient lore.  

[Goober]

No, who could have guessed???

[Steingrim]

Feb 24, 2023 16:58:12 GMT Goober said:

No, who could have guessed???

Yeah, I reckoned it was sarcasm. If you guys get too tired of scrolling, just find a larger device with a pagedown key.

[BAZanine]

Feb 24, 2023 12:46:16 GMT senatorsenpai said:

In all seriousness I think functionality really starts to get lost once you get past like 20 examples. Is it mainly to preempt people posting a song asking which notes are in it?

I mean, simply listing in which songs what notes are hit isn't done particularly for the purpose of keeping users from inquiring about anything. It's done for the sake of being comprehensive, which is kind of a must for the Range Stuff category.

[slugger]

I just thought it was funny compared to other threads which are more parsimonious. I think the current OP is a solid representation of Sinatra's approach. He had his money notes like any singer. And there are bigger sections on this site - Bing Crosby has 679 C4s!

[kaji]

A4 in this youtu.be/OXpKJ2p3lEo

[BAZanine]

Groundbreaking. Astonishing. My life has meaning again.

[queenfan11]

Bb2s and Eb4s from a cover of "Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word" live in London 1977 (the video title says 1976, but he did not perform in the UK that year, and the song wasn't released until November)

[ellie]

youtu.be/8tbP3f3i03E?si=4CtXPiSNnJPaDPgh

Pretty sad that this song isn’t in the thread at all… his voice is haunting in this

[Homelander]

Nov 12, 2023 19:54:20 GMT ellie said:

youtu.be/8tbP3f3i03E?si=4CtXPiSNnJPaDPgh

Pretty sad that this song isn’t in the thread at all… his voice is haunting in this

That is Perry Como, not Frank Sinatra.

[BAZanine]

The joke has been located!

[Homelander]

Nov 13, 2023 1:45:15 GMT BAZanine said:

The joke has been located!

Like Steingrim said, sarcasm does not work well on the Internet.

[Goober]

What do you mean?! It TOTALLY does!