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Post by falsetokaiba on Nov 12, 2021 14:10:56 GMT
Does anyone remember which 1990 performance of Run to the Hills had melodic A2s? Peak coldvois |
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Post by Macca on Jan 18, 2022 2:01:01 GMT
I don't see any notes that are labeled 5b in the questionable notes
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Post by tungsten on Oct 26, 2022 11:16:06 GMT
These lows are even better than he did in 2000s.
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Post by lumbago on Jan 10, 2023 23:41:09 GMT
In the song "black Bart blues" is that a D6 in the beginning?
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Post by Macca on Jan 11, 2023 0:16:14 GMT
That Black Bart Blues D6 is in the questionable notes
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Post by lumbago on Jan 13, 2023 17:38:00 GMT
Could anyone help me identify a note?
In the song "Wrathchild" from the album "Live after Death" does Bruce do a C6 scream or is it lower fifth octave?
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Post by clem on Jan 14, 2023 11:16:53 GMT
Could anyone help me identify a note? In the song "Wrathchild" from the album "Live after Death" does Bruce do a C6 scream or is it lower fifth octave? This would be the note in question Wrathchild - Live After Death scream
I think I do hear it as 6th octave. Although Bruce's screams from the mid-late 80s are difficult to pitch because of their rougher timbre. I'll wait for some other opinions |
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Post by Bink on Jan 14, 2023 11:33:16 GMT
Aight so I know this passage is littered with fried questionable notes. But is this passage possibly spoken by Bruce? Because if so, I'm hearing OK D2s (and potential C2s) somewhere early in the passage. If they could possibly be compared to any other of the low spoken notes.
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Post by clem on Jan 14, 2023 13:51:27 GMT
Aight so I know this passage is littered with fried questionable notes. But is this passage possibly spoken by Bruce? Because if so, I'm hearing OK D2s (and potential C2s) somewhere early in the passage. If they could possibly be compared to any other of the low spoken notes. That sounds like a hired speaker. Probably older and with a darker timbre. It's a voice actor called Barry Clayton. I believe Maiden originally wanted Vincent Price for the role, but his fee was out of their budget at the time. Worked out well in the end though. Clayton's reading is iconic. |
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Post by clem on Jan 14, 2023 14:37:52 GMT
So like it seems that Wrathchild Live After Death scream gets up to D6. To think, all these years trawling bootleg concerts to find out the note that completes the fabled 4 octaves was in their most famous live album all along.
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Post by Captain Planet on Jan 14, 2023 14:54:04 GMT
So like it seems that Wrathchild Live After Death scream gets up to D6. To think, all these years trawling bootleg concerts to find out the note that completes the fabled 4 octaves was in their most famous live album all along. Clem if what you are referring to is 1m40s here www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF5rXzfexF8#t=1m40s then come on man, you did the same thing with Prowler '88 and the Black Bart Blues a couple of years back when you included them as C#6 and D6. There is no way that Wrathchild scream is anywhere near a D6. |
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Post by clem on Jan 14, 2023 15:29:40 GMT
So like it seems that Wrathchild Live After Death scream gets up to D6. To think, all these years trawling bootleg concerts to find out the note that completes the fabled 4 octaves was in their most famous live album all along. Clem if what you are referring to is 1m40s here www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF5rXzfexF8#t=1m40s then come on man, you did the same thing with Prowler '88 and the Black Bart Blues a couple of years back when you included them as C#6 and D6. There is no way that Wrathchild scream is anywhere near a D6. I'm wary of this very thing for that very reason. But in this instance, it might be for real. Bruce's screams hadn't gone truly messy with overtones in 1985 in the same way as they would a couple of years later, and the first part of the note that slides up to about A/Bb4 sounds much lower than the headier, screamer portion that follows. I consulted the discord server, and Bink was of the opinion that D6 was the pitch it topped at. I'll get a few more opinions before adding it to the thread though. |
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Post by Osmosis on Jan 14, 2023 17:50:11 GMT
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Post by clem on Jan 14, 2023 19:08:18 GMT
Mixed bag then. I guess we'll err on the side of caution and not claim range expansion where there is doubt. D5 it is.
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Post by lumbago on Jan 14, 2023 20:12:50 GMT
Mixed bag then. I guess we'll err on the side of caution and not claim range expansion where there is doubt. D5 it is. Is it worth putting in questionable notes at all? |
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Post by clem on Jan 14, 2023 21:01:57 GMT
Mixed bag then. I guess we'll err on the side of caution and not claim range expansion where there is doubt. D5 it is. Is it worth putting in questionable notes at all? Yes  added to the questionable box |
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Post by Rodney Blazershorts on Jan 14, 2023 21:27:04 GMT
Fifth octave for sure.
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Post by Picolas Cage on Jan 15, 2023 22:06:31 GMT
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Post by clem on Jan 16, 2023 23:02:34 GMT
youtu.be/cFrgMo1sT50?t=96Asked around and most of everyone agreed that this was a D6, however poor audio quality makes it hard to hear the entire note That one's been in the questionable notes spoiler (as a D6 at least) for some years now. I'm hearing the vibrato go from A5 and B5 personally, but I'm not hearing it reach up to D6 at all. |
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Post by Henny Macc on Jan 18, 2023 0:32:41 GMT
So like it seems that Wrathchild Live After Death scream gets up to D6. To think, all these years trawling bootleg concerts to find out the note that completes the fabled 4 octaves was in their most famous live album all along. Clem if what you are referring to is 1m40s here www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF5rXzfexF8#t=1m40s then come on man, you did the same thing with Prowler '88 and the Black Bart Blues a couple of years back when you included them as C#6 and D6. There is no way that Wrathchild scream is anywhere near a D6. Chiming in to say that I definitely agree that this note is a D5, and not a D6. If it were a D6, he'd be making an octave+ jump in the ascent from B♭4 to D6, which would be kinda ridiculous. I also imagine that an actual D6 would sound much more piercing if he did it that way. Instead it's just the kind of false cord grit that he put over the D5 that makes it sound higher. Sounds like this touches B5. The scream you linked tops at E5, but the vibrato of the one at 4:46 gets up to G♯5. youtu.be/cFrgMo1sT50?t=96Asked around and most of everyone agreed that this was a D6, however poor audio quality makes it hard to hear the entire note The D6 that you're hearing is some other noise that happens while Bruce is sustaining the note. The scream itself is a B♭5/B5. No D6s for Bruce today folks, sorry. :whistling: |
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Post by Zedd Squared on Jan 25, 2023 15:33:48 GMT
Does anyone remember which 1990 performance of Run to the Hills had melodic A2s? Peak coldvois Can we get these added to the OP? Looks like they never got added and I remember it being mentioned that someone was against it because his voice was in such poor shape at the time, but personally I don't really think that affects the countability of them. |
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Post by clem on Jan 25, 2023 17:51:37 GMT
Can we get these added to the OP? Looks like they never got added and I remember it being mentioned that someone was against it because his voice was in such poor shape at the time, but personally I don't really think that affects the countability of them. His voice sounds absolutely wrecked in that performance, enough so to have me thinking he was probably ill. Considering those notes were never replicated in a performance of "Run to the Hills" again, I think the poor condition his voice was in that night was the only reason they ever existed, and don't represent him well as a singer. |
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