Luis Miguel (10,661 views)

[Steingrim]

Sept 13, 2023 13:16:28 GMT rootyrootz said:

Sept 13, 2023 13:04:54 GMT Steingrim said:

Puberty may start earlier than at 10 and isn't finished until many years later, but someone's voice may not change significantly until in the late teens. A 16 year old might still have a largely pre-pubertal voice.

Unless we have a reason to believe that someone's voice hadn't broken then settled reasonably at the time when he (or even she) hit some note, I would say that it doesn't matter how young or old - whether it's 12 or 100.

Good! So the note counts then, that's all that matters

Well if it's agreed that his voice had broken and settled reasonably at that point, then it should be. 16 isn't that uncommon for a male treble voice. 17 or 18 is pushing statistics.

[willimatteuzzi89]

I realize that the post ignores the album FIEBRE DE AMOR

[rebaru]

Sept 13, 2023 17:16:08 GMT willimatteuzzi89 said:

I realize that the post ignores the album FIEBRE DE AMOR

it was recorded when he was quite literally 14 years old, so I decided against notewatching it since it has little to nothing to do with his post-pubescent voice

his voice only finishes developing  around 16 years old or so

I don't like the argument of "oh but voices never stop changing", it's a very easy way to feign dementia and pretend all biologically male voices don't generally immensely drop during puberty. He sounds irrecognizably different in those early recordings, if you heard Luis Miguel sing at age 50 and age 17 though you'd definitely be able to tell it's the same person, though - despite the given natural changes to his instrument.

[willimatteuzzi89]

Dec 14, 2023 3:55:52 GMT rebaru said:

Sept 13, 2023 17:16:08 GMT willimatteuzzi89 said:

I realize that the post ignores the album FIEBRE DE AMOR

it was recorded when he was quite literally 14 years old, so I decided against notewatching it since it has little to nothing to do with his post-pubescent voice

his voice only finishes developing  around 16 years old or so

I don't like the argument of "oh but voices never stop changing", it's a very easy way to feign dementia and pretend all biologically male voices don't generally immensely drop during puberty. He sounds irrecognizably different in those early recordings, if you heard Luis Miguel sing at age 50 and age 17 though you'd definitely be able to tell it's the same person, though - despite the given natural changes to his instrument.

The album Fever of Love was recorded after Words of Honor, although leaving that aside. There are many low and high notes that are not included. Are you going to update the post?