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Post by Puffin on Aug 29, 2022 13:28:58 GMT
Not sure where else to put this, but does anyone think that the B flat 4s at 5:12 onwards could be Phil Collins? He's credited with additional vocals on this album.
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Post by Henny Macc on Sept 20, 2022 5:02:31 GMT
We were discussing this note on Discord the other day, and there seemed to be a wide range of opinions on it: I was hearing it as a screamy/overtoney B♭5 while Tony Iommi's guitar played a D5 under it. Apparently queenfan11 hears it as the opposite - with Iommi playing a B♭5 and Dio hitting a rough D5. Baronessa hears Iommi's guitar note as a D5 as well, but also hears Dio's vocal note as a D5 or E♭5. Then MrToddington described it as "F5ish with weird overtoney stuff", but wasn't really sure and said that he might need to give it a spectrograph analysis. I'm like, 100% sure that Iommi's guitar note is a D5 at the very least. I was reasonably confident that Dio's vocal note was a B♭5 too, but the amount of other opinions is making me second-guess that much a little, so I figured I'd bring it up here to see what people think.  |
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Post by tungsten on Sept 20, 2022 20:43:30 GMT
We were discussing this note on Discord the other day, and there seemed to be a wide range of opinions on it: I was hearing it as a screamy/overtoney B♭5 while Tony Iommi's guitar played a D5 under it. Apparently queenfan11 hears it as the opposite - with Iommi playing a B♭5 and Dio hitting a rough D5. Baronessa hears Iommi's guitar note as a D5 as well, but also hears Dio's vocal note as a D5 or E♭5. Then MrToddington described it as "F5ish with weird overtoney stuff", but wasn't really sure and said that he might need to give it a spectrograph analysis. I'm like, 100% sure that Iommi's guitar note is a D5 at the very least. I was reasonably confident that Dio's vocal note was a B♭5 too, but the amount of other opinions is making me second-guess that much a little, so I figured I'd bring it up here to see what people think. At the beginning of the scream we see Tony's middle finger sitting on 12th or 13th fret. This song was in d# but I've read they lowered the tuning half step during that tour so he's probably playing D5/D#5 at this moment. |
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Post by Henny Macc on Sept 21, 2022 3:29:36 GMT
We were discussing this note on Discord the other day, and there seemed to be a wide range of opinions on it: I was hearing it as a screamy/overtoney B♭5 while Tony Iommi's guitar played a D5 under it. Apparently queenfan11 hears it as the opposite - with Iommi playing a B♭5 and Dio hitting a rough D5. Baronessa hears Iommi's guitar note as a D5 as well, but also hears Dio's vocal note as a D5 or E♭5. Then MrToddington described it as "F5ish with weird overtoney stuff", but wasn't really sure and said that he might need to give it a spectrograph analysis. I'm like, 100% sure that Iommi's guitar note is a D5 at the very least. I was reasonably confident that Dio's vocal note was a B♭5 too, but the amount of other opinions is making me second-guess that much a little, so I figured I'd bring it up here to see what people think. At the beginning of the scream we see Tony's middle finger sitting on 12th or 13th fret. This song was in d# but I've read they lowered the tuning half step during that tour so he's probably playing D5/D#5 at this moment. Yeah like I said, I didn't have many doubts that Iommi's note was a D5, but that's a pretty good objective proof of it for anyone who had doubts. No way could he play a B♭5 with his finger positioned there. |
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Post by CT on Oct 31, 2022 1:03:11 GMT
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Post by CT on Nov 16, 2022 15:55:16 GMT
1. it's definitely not 6th octave 2. how tf was this note even produced he has a few notes later in his career that are produced with um rather interesting techniques that are unknown to science |
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Post by avi on Sept 6, 2023 23:44:44 GMT
youtu.be/l53AsTijJKQ?t=89 , the screaming in the background. Platypus (who I concede is infinitely more reliable than I am) says F5 and I say C6. If I don't get any follow-ups in a few days I'll just change it to F5, but I thought I might as well try here. Tried the Shoutbox too.
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Post by Osmosis on Jan 7, 2024 22:20:28 GMT
Wanting to move along some of my WIP threads and one of the outstanding issues is Ricky Gervais' alleged C2. Macca and I think he gets to C2 but BAZanine thinks he stops at C#. |
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Post by Goober on Jan 8, 2024 0:24:11 GMT
C#2 i thinks
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Post by senatorsenpai on Jan 8, 2024 12:42:07 GMT
I think I agree with C2, but the low quality upload makes it difficult to tell. Was that recording given a proper HQ release?
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Post by blazejecar2 on Jan 8, 2024 13:14:59 GMT
Team C2
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Post by Osmosis on Jan 8, 2024 17:30:47 GMT
I think I agree with C2, but the low quality upload makes it difficult to tell. Was that recording given a proper HQ release? This is another upload but it doesn't sound much improved. It isn't on spotify and can only be found on a DVD which is probably the source of these uploads. This is the best we have unfortunately. |
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Post by Osmosis on Jan 24, 2024 21:51:11 GMT
What happens now then? It's 4 for C2 vs 3 C#2 (if you count Electric Mami's like as a vote)
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Post by Electric Mami on Jan 24, 2024 21:56:40 GMT
In that case I'd say ask for more opinions (we can do it via the Discord) to get a clearer majority and take a decision
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Post by Henny Macc on Jan 25, 2024 5:23:55 GMT
Wanting to move along some of my WIP threads and one of the outstanding issues is Ricky Gervais' alleged C2. Macca and I think he gets to C2 but BAZanine thinks he stops at C#. Definitely a C2 |
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Post by Osmosis on Jan 28, 2024 15:33:40 GMT
C2 is the majority vote then. No new votes came through from Discord. C2 - 6 and C#2 -3. I'm going to keep it as it is therefore.
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Post by sangeet on Feb 13, 2024 3:24:09 GMT
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Post by Electric Mami on Feb 13, 2024 6:54:16 GMT
C♯2, great tone
C♯2 as well, a little more rocky but good too
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Post by mangellain on Mar 22, 2024 3:46:19 GMT
Hello, I would like help to get this note, I think the main note is in E5 but I can't get the other notes that accompany it.
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