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Post by clem on Jan 25, 2023 22:50:54 GMT
For that era of his career, it was very out of character for him to use A2s live, and that's what sways it for me. It's something that non-sick Bruce didn't do in 1990. I could see them having a place in the spoiler box (in fact I am only noticing that I hadn't included them there already), but they're anomalous enough to be kept out of the main thread imo.
I will hear out other opinions, however.
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Post by CT on Jan 25, 2023 23:20:50 GMT
Nah that's silly. If we start nitpicking to that level, we could range destroy any lows we find that "seem like they could have been recorded while the singer was sick". It's kind of in a similar line of thinking to me as the logic that we can't count notes from different stages of a singer's career because of how much their voices changed in between - such as Phil Anselmo's early highs, or Warrel Dane's. Also they're just A2s, so it's not like we're range expanding Bruce down to G1 with sick vois notes or something. It seems like a pretty harmless inclusion to me. soooooooo…… The whole of Innuendo by Queen has no countable notes. Except the harmonies |
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Post by Bink on Jan 26, 2023 13:53:26 GMT
E5 C5 (at least I think so) E5 |
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Post by Henny Macc on Jan 27, 2023 21:06:37 GMT
For that era of his career, it was very out of character for him to use A2s live, and that's what sways it for me. It's something that non-sick Bruce didn't do in 1990. I could see them having a place in the spoiler box (in fact I am only noticing that I hadn't included them there already), but they're anomalous enough to be kept out of the main thread imo. I will hear out other opinions, however. Singing that song as low as A2 is a pretty calculated choice based on how his voice was doing that night though. It's not like they're some red notes that only happened because of a fluke, he knew he couldn't go as high as the song required so he went for a completely different feel to accommodate the situation. Plus it's not really THAT unheard of for him to hit low notes live in that period since just a few years later he'd be hitting G2 and Bb2s when performing Afraid to Shoot Strangers and Fear of the Dark. Agreed - it's not like he didn't have the ability to hit A2s at the time and being sick expanded his range to grant him the unique ability to sing them when he otherwise wouldn't. His high range was clearly doing very badly that night and he opted to sing the song an entire octave down because that was what was most manageable, and in the process of doing so took advantage of his less-used low range. Though as Zedd pointed out, this wasn't even the first time we were hearing him sing that low at that stage - he had already started to do so in songs off Fear of the Dark that regularly got played live around that time, so this was ultimately just a case of him doing that in a song that normally didn't go that low. The only thing that I can think of that in any way makes those notes less credible is that he hit them more strongly than he might otherwise be able to because of the state of his voice at the time, but again - given that it's not like they granted him a range expansion or anything, I really don't see the harm in counting them. |
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Post by Picolas Cage on Feb 3, 2023 2:22:11 GMT
The highest note I've heard post Maiden reunion Bruce go is a G5 (I'm pretty sure it's a G5) youtu.be/do_BgiF9y0U0:10 |
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 3, 2023 8:44:03 GMT
The highest note I've heard post Maiden reunion Bruce go is a G5 (I'm pretty sure it's a G5) youtu.be/do_BgiF9y0U0:10 He reaches A5 briefly at 1:43 ! |
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Post by Picolas Cage on Feb 3, 2023 13:37:16 GMT
The highest note I've heard post Maiden reunion Bruce go is a G5 (I'm pretty sure it's a G5) youtu.be/do_BgiF9y0U0:10 He reaches A5 briefly at 1:43 ! If you're referring to the video I sent, then the A5 you're hearing is held by Glen Hughes at 1:43, not Bruce |
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 3, 2023 15:17:17 GMT
He reaches A5 briefly at 1:43 ! If you're referring to the video I sent, then the A5 you're hearing is held by Glen Hughes at 1:43, not Bruce Bruce Dickinson is the one with the knitted hat, right ? He's the one moving his lips to engage vibrato when that note starts. His facial expression suggests that he's going for really high notes. The other one is just singing "yeah" or something at the end. |
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Post by Picolas Cage on Feb 3, 2023 16:33:24 GMT
If you're referring to the video I sent, then the A5 you're hearing is held by Glen Hughes at 1:43, not Bruce Bruce Dickinson is the one with the knitted hat, right ? He's the one moving his lips to engage vibrato when that note starts. His facial expression suggests that he's going for really high notes. The other one is just singing "yeah" or something at the end. You can hear Bruce hold a C5 while Glen is hitting the A5, Glen also hits similar notes later in the song at 0:58 2:09 3:26 4:00 and so on |
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Post by Picolas Cage on Feb 7, 2023 0:12:55 GMT
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Post by clem on Feb 7, 2023 17:49:30 GMT
The Believil lows are some of the most borderline of spoilerable notes. I don't hear them going lower than C♯2. But the main problem with them is how faint they are. I wouldn't be entirely against counting them, since there is more than one instance of him hitting that pitch in that passage, although it would set a precedent and a swing in standards back towards looser note inclusion. Elton John's D6s were range expansion included under that same rationale, to be fair, despite being very fleeting notes.
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Post by Osmosis on Feb 7, 2023 21:55:42 GMT
I for one think Elton's D6s should be in the spoiler box :/
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Post by Picolas Cage on Feb 7, 2023 22:57:22 GMT
Just saw that the Believel C2 note was in the spoiler box
Woops...🤡😭
They're countable in my opinion, but who am I to say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Picolas Cage on Feb 16, 2023 17:15:36 GMT
Decent live G5 for 'Be Quick or Be Dead': Man that Wrathchild scream at 13:38 has so much power! |
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