Dionne Warwick (6,823 views)

[kaji]

F5s and G5s in 'Then Came You' live www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNh7eCqXswg Also D6 towards the end.
G3, Bb4, Eb5, one short G5 in "He's So Shy" www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL8bjWnMgPY Also Eb6 right at the end but I can't tell if that's her or not.
Bold blue Bb5 here youtu.be/52gpdxxduXU?t=487 but she does a lot more soprano 1 singing in this
Eb3 in recent Alfie performance www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QmJSvR17Pc
Italic A2 youtu.be/pYLgaW0BTvQ?t=78

[Platypus]

Mar 15, 2022 22:21:52 GMT Steingrim said:

I wished that J D Sumner could have showed up during the discussion we had about chest voice in that thread, and told us what he thought about that whole thing. I suppose that that is mostly not going to happen.

oh no, J.D. Snuttes has raised his chest voice to impossible levels! no don´t do it J.D. it´s too powerful !

[Aardvark]

Mar 15, 2022 21:40:58 GMT Steingrim said:

Mar 15, 2022 20:59:52 GMT Aardvark said:

The passagi basically signify substantial enough changes in lightness to hear; first passagio marks a distinct change in sound and how it feels, sane with second. But some singers blend those together almost seamlessly by continuously lightening at every pitch so that there is no audible transition between passagi

Yes, but why two passagis if there is no mix zone ? This isn't just your opinion against mine, it's quite obviously resources that you've read against resources that I've read. There's a lot of confusion around terminology out there. I'm not trying to impose my version as some sort of dogma, rather I'm asking questions in order to understand what people are actually saying.

Yeah, the terminology is unfortunately quite inconsistent on this. Anything that deviates from there being just two registers, modal and falsetto, is unfortunately misinformed. So much stuff online talks about mixed as if it is its own register which is obviously not true. Even head voice, as you described, is just lightened modal voice. The designation of the two passagi is likely somewhat arbitrary; it could easily be one, or perhaps none for trained singers. As long as you understand the general idea though, it should be fine.

[kaji]

Terminology isn't particularly inconsistent. There's just a few different systems that use terms in their own way. True vocal pedagogy articles usually state which system they are using before even talking about passaggi. If we went by Miller's definition, then there'd be 2 passaggi points in full voice (M1). He does not talk much of passaggi in M2, as it was not particularly well-researched at the time but current research points to there being 4 passaggi in it, not 2. And then there is one whistle passaggio. And I suppose passaggio in strohbass counts too. Which would in theory mean there's 8 different passaggi in the voice.

As for Dionne. I don't know why this discussion is happening in this thread. I simply just posted two clips that should be added to the thread. I think it was pretty obvious what I meant in my initial message too lol.

Also Dionne sang some notes above D6 in her appearance on I believe the Carol Burnett Show. I'll look into it.

[Steingrim]

Mar 15, 2022 23:54:48 GMT Platypus said:

Mar 15, 2022 22:21:52 GMT Steingrim said:

I wished that J D Sumner could have showed up during the discussion we had about chest voice in that thread, and told us what he thought about that whole thing. I suppose that that is mostly not going to happen.

oh no, J.D. Snuttes has raised his chest voice to impossible levels! no don´t do it J.D. it´s too powerful !

Han var ikke mye til Cingulata, men det skjedde vel.

['S]

Komme tilbake til Dionne's singing pls
og bruk English in replies thx

[kaji]

Blue Bb5 from Dionne in the backing vocals here - youtu.be/BJ2MS2OOfKc?t=681 And a whole lot of black G5s in that same song. 
G5 on the first song - youtu.be/GEktZcHnJiA Also A5 at 1:30. 
G#5s on the first song. youtu.be/LThHBAv2eMM 10:03 A5. 

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Insane C5s, D5s and E5s in this performance of "Bridge Over Troubled Water"