Jonathon Ng (EDEN, The Eden Project) (4,785 views)

[andrewbrantt]

Jonathon Ng
Also known as: EDEN, The Eden Project, The Spab Project

Jonathon Ng, known professionally as Eden (stylised as EDEN), is an Irish singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer and occasional model. He formerly operated as The Spab Project and later The Eden Project, an alias that was discontinued in 2015. Ng's work as The Eden Project typically featured more conventional styles of electronic dance music such as dubstep and drum and bass, while Eden saw him venturing into a more indie pop style.

Roles: Singer, songwriter, record producer
Instruments: Vocals, piano, guitar, violin
Genres: Alternative rock, R&B, dream pop, indietronica, indie pop, electronic, dubstep, EDM


Vocal Range: E♭2 - B4 - G♯5 (Lyric Baritone)

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{QUESTIONABLE NOTES}
E♭5 ("End Credits"  _{studio version} ^[2])
E♭2 ("projector" ^[3])

^{[1] marks yelps and short trills in high range or anacrusis and short dips in low range.
[2] marks notes of questionable identity that cannot be confirmed to be the singer in question.
[3] marks non-melodic notes that don't have a significant enough pitch to warrant inclusion.
[4] marks notes that possess uncertain pitch or have been pitch-shifted.
[5] marks notes that do not fit the previous criteria but are not of a substantial enough quality to warrant counting towards the singer's range.}

Significant High Notes:

G♯5 ("isohel")
G5 ("good morning", "Closer 2")
F♯5 ("isohel")
F5 ("Closer 2", "good morning", "Sci-Fi")
E5 ("wonder", "????", "Reaching 2")
E♭5 ("End Credits" _{various lives}, "Reaching 2", "love, death, distraction")
D5 ("wonder", "love, death, distraction", "????", "take care", "Call Me Back", "Nocturne")
C♯5 ("hertz", "sex", "Billie Jean", "Nocturne", "Peaked")
C5 ("Closer 2", "Duvidha", "love, death, distraction", "????", "icarus", "gold", "rock + roll", "float", "pool")
B4 ("tides", "Times Like These", "take care", "drugs", "Circles", "all you need is love")
B♭4 ("Billie Jean", "love, death, distraction",  "isohel", "Peaked")
A4 ("hertz", "wings", "just saying", "Duvidha", "2020", "Times Like These", "start//end", "icarus", "forever//over", "falling in reverse", "sex", "XO", "Elsewhere", "Gravity", "Nocturne", "Wake Up", "wrong")
G♯4 ("hertz", "projector", "isohel", "Times Like These", "Lost", "Reaching 2", "Jupiter", "gold", "static", "calm down")
G4 ("Balling", "Elsewhere", "love, death, distraction", "good morning", "wonder", "float", "drugs", "rock + roll", "Fumes", "Wake Up", "Chasing Ghosts", "Crazy in Love", "$treams", "love; not wrong (brave)")
F♯4 ("wings", "drugs", "start//end", "Gravity", "static", "wrong", "love; not wrong (brave)")
F4 ("Call Me Back", "fomo", "good morning")
E4 ("hertz", "wonder", "Nocturne", "Circles", "Crazy in Love", "untitled")


Significant Low Notes:

D3 ("$treams", "Gravity")
C♯3 ("how to sleep", "just saying", "forever//over", "Interlude", "Man Down")
C3 ("End Credits", "so far so good", "and", "rock + roll", "Call Me Back", "lost//found", "float", "and")
B2 ("hertz", "just saying", "PS1", "isohel", "tides", "forever//over", "drugs", "Gravity", "catch me if you can", "Crazy in Love")
B♭2 ("crash", "rock + roll")
A2 ("hertz", "so far so good", "$treams", "icarus", "forever//over", "Wake Up", "float", "Man Down")
G♯2 ("Modern Warfare", "projector", "just saying", "Sci-Fi", "Reaching 2")
G2 ("icarus", "crash", "drugs", "PS1", "Elsewhere")
F♯2 ("Reaching 2", "just saying")
F2 ("projector")
E♭2 ("XO" _{live in periscope, 08/2016})

• Blue marks head voice/falsetto notes
  
• Underlines mark background notes
• Italics mark non-melodic or spoken notes
• Bold marks especially significant notes

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{Album Ranges}
(2015) End Credits: A2 - D5
(2016) i think you think too much of me: G2 - C♯5
(2018) vertigo: G2 - E5
(2020) no future: F2 - G♯5
(2022) ICYMI: F♯2 - G5

Thanks to sylvia!! for looking into some EDEN's older stuff.

[haeksk（ハクサク）]

Good thread! Used to really like a couple of this guy's songs, glad someone took up the task of notewatching him. Here's a couple notes on the thread!

You probably don't need "Vocal Range" nor "WIP" in the title; it's already on a notewatching forum and under the WIP section, so lol

This site uses certain conventions for note names. Specifically, D#s are E♭s and A#s are B♭s. I used all sharps for consistency on my first thread too, but I decided to go back in and change them after it being pointed out + me noticing that basically all threads used those conventions.

Those couple green notes aren't really that terribly distorted; I think most threads would just leave those in as black. I know you changed your key to say "notes with a significant amount of distortion", but it's typically reserved for fairly out-there screams, not just some subtle grit.

Also, you should probably link the bolded notes. Usually, when I see a thread, the first thing I'd always want to do is to click the bolded notes to see their best vocal moments in each given range area. You linked a bunch of other notes, but none of the bolded ones for some reason lol

Good luck with your notewatching! I think he has a relatively large discography (?), so it'll probably take a while. I might go in and find a couple notes to help you out :)

[haeksk（ハクサク）]

Lost: Lots of nice falsetto G#4s, and a chest G4 here. youtu.be/ZMCP4xIsmAw?t=176
It also sounds like he has some second-octave backing vocals at each chorus that are doing either an octave unison or a harmony? youtu.be/ZMCP4xIsmAw?t=161
My guess is G#2 for those

[andrewbrantt]

May 27, 2021 23:23:43 GMT haeksk（ハクサク） said:

Good thread! Used to really like a couple of this guy's songs, glad someone took up the task of notewatching him. Here's a couple notes on the thread!

wow thank you

I started listening to it recently, there are a lot of songs that I haven't listened to yet. I decided to create this thread with the main notes even because I haven't seen any similar content on the internet.
I plan to post updates from time to time, as there is little content about it, I have to listen to his vocal performances and identify the notes myself.

May 27, 2021 23:23:43 GMT haeksk（ハクサク） said:

This site uses certain conventions for note names. Specifically, D#s are E♭s and A#s are B♭s. I used all sharps for consistency on my first thread too, but I decided to go back in and change them after it being pointed out + me noticing that basically all threads used those conventions.

Alright! I will definitely check it out later, thanks for the touch.

May 27, 2021 23:23:43 GMT haeksk（ハクサク） said:

Good luck with your notewatching! I think he has a relatively large discography (?), so it'll probably take a while. I might go in and find a couple notes to help you out :)

Oh thank you

May 27, 2021 23:23:43 GMT haeksk（ハクサク） said:

Those couple green notes aren't really that terribly distorted; I think most threads would just leave those in as black. I know you changed your key to say "notes with a significant amount of distortion", but it's typically reserved for fairly out-there screams, not just some subtle grit.

Yeah... I'll check that out later too.

May 27, 2021 23:23:43 GMT haeksk（ハクサク） said:

You probably don't need "Vocal Range" nor "WIP" in the title; it's already on a notewatching forum and under the WIP section, so lol

I ended up putting this "WIP" because not only am I new to the forum, but I'm also new to forums in general lol, I don't know 100% how things work.

[SailorBlue]

Here I go again, reformatted and fixed some issue for ya.

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{Fresh Thread With a Side of Fries}
Jonathon Ng (23 December 1995 - Present)
Vocal Range: F2 - G♯5

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{Vocal Summary}Jonathon Ng, known professionally as Eden (stylised as EDEN), is an Irish singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer, and occasional model. He formerly operated as The Spab Project, and later, The Eden Project, an alias that was discontinued in 2015. Ng's work as The Eden Project typically featured more conventional styles of electronic dance music such as dubstep, and drum and bass, while Eden saw him venturing into a more indie pop style.
Written by andrewbrantt .

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{Album Ranges}End Credits (2015): TBD
I Think You Think too Much of Me (2016): G2 - G4 - C♯5
Vertigo (2018): G2 - E4 - E5
No Future (2020): F2 - B4 - G♯5

Significant High Notes:

G♯5 ("isohel")
G5 ("good morning")
F♯5 ("isohel")
F5 ("good morning")
E5 ("wonder", "????")
E♭5 ("love, death, distraction")
D5 ("love, death, distraction", "take care""????")
C♯5 ("hertz", "sex")
C5 ("icarus", "love, death, distraction", "????")
B4 ("drugs", "take care", "tides", "Times Like These")
B♭4 ("isohel", "love, death, distraction")
A4 ("falling in reverse", "fomo", "forever//over", "hertz", "icarus", "just saying", "sex", "start//end")
G♯4 ("isohel", "Lost", "projector", "Times Like These")
G4 ("drugs", "Fumes", "good morning", "rock + roll", "wonder")

Significant Low Notes:

D3 ("$treams")
C♯3 ("forever//over", "how to sleep")
C3 ("and", "rock + roll", "so far so good")
B2 ("drugs", "forever//over", "hertz", "isohel", "just saying", "tides")
B♭2 ("crash", "rock + roll")
A2 ("forever//over", "icarus", "hertz", "so far so good", "$treams")
G♯2 ("projector", "XO" Live Periscope 2016)
G2 ("crash", "drugs", "icarus")
F♯2 ("just saying")
F2 ("projector", "XO" Live Periscope 2016)

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{Questionable Notes}E♭2 ("projector" [1])
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[1] marks yelps and short trills in high range or anacrusis and short dips in low range.
[2] marks notes of questionable identity that cannot be confirmed to be the singer in question.
[3] marks non-melodic notes that don't have a significant enough pitch to warrant inclusion.
[4] marks notes that possess uncertain pitch or have been pitch-shifted.
[5] marks notes that do not fit the previous criteria but are not of a substantial enough quality to warrant counting towards the singer's range.

.......................................................
Blue marks falsetto or whistle notes.
Underlines mark notes that are obscured in the song mix.
Italics mark non-melodic notes.
Boldface marks notes that are considered to be particularly notable examples of this person's vocal capabilities.

First of all, the pitching was pretty good all things considered. So good job on that front. However, some of the objective issues I found mainly included alphabetization issues. The rest of the stuff I changed was aesthetic stuff to make the thread more pleasing to look at. I also shifted around the bolds to what I would consider boldworthy for him. Granted, this part is totally arbitrary so feel free to change it at your leisure. But yeah, decent first effort, curious on how it will turn out. Yeet.

[sylvia!!]

some stuff i found
c#5 falsetto here on billie jean youtu.be/cyDOUPz0hpA?t=82
also a b4 falsetto here youtu.be/5WJwbLJSKs4?t=170
c3 youtu.be/5WJwbLJSKs4?t=170
background g#4 youtu.be/Z71h3IzoO8s?t=177
couple of jumpy falsettos around here ranging from g#4 to c5 also a c3 earlier in the song youtu.be/AkYUCITjhIE?t=74

i saw that you're still exploring eden, i recommend checking some of his earlier stuff as eden project, esp on koala control - there should be a few more notable low notes

keep up the good work, i adore eden and am happy someone made a thread for him :)

[sylvia!!]

♯ symbols would be awesome

generally w/ bolds as well you keep it to one passage, so for nocturne i think bolding the c♯5 would be ur best bet

[BAZanine]

Hey, just wanted to get back to you since you posted this thread in Ready to Review recently. There are a couple formatting issues and the like that are keeping this from being moved over right now, many of which SailorBlue touched on. I'd check his reformatting of your thread to get an idea of what it should look like, but here are a couple things to keep in mind:

1. When listing the overall vocal range at the top, we don't separate the highest "black" note and the highest overall note. So effectively, your vocal range listing should just read as E♭2 - G♯5.
2. What you'll want to do to get the right shade of blue for your falsetto notes, as opposed to just picking a color out, is using this code on each falsetto note:

[color=blue][/color]
In practice, it should look something like this:

"[color=blue]Closer 2[/color]"
3. You're going to want to alphabetize your song titles. That way it's easier for those interested in a given song to find the notes that he hit in it. Songs that start with numbers, special symbols, or punctuation (i.e. "????") will always be the first alphabetically.
4. This part isn't necessarily a rule, but if you're going to denote that the highest note in an album range is falsetto, it'd also make sense to denote the highest "black" note hit in that album. It runs a bit contrary to the first point I made, but album ranges are used to chronicle how a singer's voice/range changed over time so I'm sure people would appreciate the clarification.
Anyhow, that's it from me. Happy notewatching!