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Post by namainohana on Nov 27, 2021 23:14:10 GMT
Sir, I can sing in that range. I will record my stranger cover soon (obviously I will modulate some parts my full voice range is B1-G5(F# is hard for me), probably gonna hit a semi dark D#5(I think I am the only male who can do that note in semi dark fashion) w/vibrato while ending the song later on will slide up to a straight F5). I will send the cover to you privately. I will not post it here as I respect Mr Dimash Q. Dimash has hit dark e5s way before that dahling. Go there kill your voice and live in your own mediocrity. Prove that he can darken E5..... I knew, he can't. he can't even darken D#5. Can he darken D5? Yes he can do that consistently but can't sustain them a lot he brightens them after some time which is normal because that is his limit. He does not do the same thing with C#5 for example just like I don't brighten my D5s cause I have my D# in my limit pocket. |
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Post by damnitall on Nov 27, 2021 23:31:12 GMT
Dimash has hit dark e5s way before that dahling. Go there kill your voice and live in your own mediocrity. Prove that he can darken E5..... I knew, he can't. he can't even darken D#5. Can he darken D5? Yes he can do that consistently but can't sustain them a lot he brightens them after some time which is normal because that is his limit. He does not do the same thing with C#5 for example just like I don't brighten my D5s cause I have my D# in my limit pocket. (4:15). The first one is great. That's his limit. And he has many sustained dark d5s. Literally at the end of every unforgettable day performance. Again, this proves you don't know Dimash. You're just another false fan. Get fucked. He gets sick quite easily, ngl. I've noticed he gets sick often. He probably doesn't get sick any more than you or I do but it seems like a lot. A few times in four years isn't often but it feels like a lot. It's probably from fatigue because of how hard his songs are, how much he practices and perhaps not having perfect technique all the time (although he is really good at having a somewhat healthy technique most of the time) That's a great point. Most likely fatigue due to agenda and/or traveling. It feels like a lot though. Just feels like. |
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Post by thatteenbaritone on Nov 28, 2021 0:06:20 GMT
I've noticed he gets sick often. He probably doesn't get sick any more than you or I do but it seems like a lot. A few times in four years isn't often but it feels like a lot. It's probably from fatigue because of how hard his songs are, how much he practices and perhaps not having perfect technique all the time (although he is really good at having a somewhat healthy technique most of the time) That's a great point. Most likely fatigue due to agenda and/or traveling. It feels like a lot though. Just feels like. We think it's a lot because we're used to Dimash always being incredibly pitch accurate and being on proper form, so the contrast that he has when sick becomes more apparent. At least that's what I theorise. There are times though that he still performs really well when sick like he did with Daybreak on Singer. |
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Post by kaji on Nov 28, 2021 5:48:47 GMT
Sir, I can sing in that range. I will record my stranger cover soon (obviously I will modulate some parts my full voice range is B1-G5(F# is hard for me), probably gonna hit a semi dark D#5(I think I am the only male who can do that note in semi dark fashion) w/vibrato while ending the song later on will slide up to a straight F5). I will send the cover to you privately. I will not post it here as I respect Mr Dimash Q. Dimash has hit dark e5s way before that dahling. Go there kill your voice and live in your own mediocrity. I would like to mention something I and many others didn't know/completely forgot about when it came to the Stranger performance today; Dimash actually had respiratory problems during recording. He mentioned this in an interview at the Shine Super Brothers show in which the performance was from. I can find it if anyone asks lol. Not sure how much it affected his performance but its good to keep in mind. He gets sick quite easily, ngl. I've researched Dimash's singing pretty extensively since his debut, and I have never ever heard him 'hit' let alone sing any dark E5. In fact, I can't think of any male singers who have this ability. Pitches up there generally will be very bright, even with darkening. Dimash generally keeps his sound VERY bright throughout his entire range. Which is how he can even get to the pitches he does. |
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Post by damnitall on Nov 28, 2021 11:27:19 GMT
another crazy lipsync performance but this time does not have enough taste.. premiere far better Thanks for stranger rehearsal link. As you can see at the very end he does not even sustain that ridiculous 20sec F#. Probably will not even hit C2 F2 G2s of the song and obviously will avoid high F6. I am telling you Dimash is going downhill. Records impressive techniques and does not perform them live. literally proved I was right. Mediocre performance in live parts, tasteless lipsync parts meeeh so sad Terrible ending note(F#5) obviously could not hit it for 20sec and caught up in vibrato literally the most instable vibrato there is(after 3.57 epic fail). Low parts are all lipsync. After 2.14 some tasteless lipsync some A5 some A1-G#1(uncountable obv), soft E6, sounds very amazing. Even ascolta la voce parts are lipsync. After E6 lipsync part, he fails to hit "ground" parts(C#5) with a clear tone(sounds like his throat is not smooth) that's why he hits "in a stranger's land" using higher part of his voice(b2b F#5s) to avoid this problem. (genius to execute this in a very short time to be fair) Beginning parts where he sings live and soft are great. Overall nice(8/10) but nowhere near "out of this world" performance from him. You edit your post to say even more stupidity. Gosh, where's your brain, man? Dimash has hit dark e5s way before that dahling. Go there kill your voice and live in your own mediocrity. He gets sick quite easily, ngl. I've researched Dimash's singing pretty extensively since his debut, and I have never ever heard him 'hit' let alone sing any dark E5. In fact, I can't think of any male singers who have this ability. Pitches up there generally will be very bright, even with darkening. Dimash generally keeps his sound VERY bright throughout his entire range. Which is how he can even get to the pitches he does. The love of tired swans kiev isn't dark? I mean, it's definately not bright... |
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Post by damnitall on Nov 28, 2021 13:04:46 GMT
Dimash has just performed in the Tokyo Jazz Festival. You can find it here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5EFjaY6eNcAutumn Strong in Japanese!!!! Eb6 head followed by C#6 (classic). Great dark c#5 mix belt. Very emotive as always (damn dude gave me chills). Perfect e5 mixed belt. Great f#5. Amazing control with humming and dark chest voice (second octave, maybe around e2?) |
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Post by thatteenbaritone on Nov 28, 2021 13:06:29 GMT
youtu.be/WzKTy11TVfgHe sang Autumn Strong in Japanese. The humming at the end was great. Dimash has just performed in the Tokyo Jazz Festival. You can find it here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5EFjaY6eNcAutumn Strong in Japanese!!!! Eb6 head followed by C#6 (classic). Great dark c#5 mix belt. Very emotive as always (damn dude's gave me chills). Perfect e5 mixed belt. Great f#5. Amazing control with humming and dark chest voice (second octave, maybe around e2?) It sounded around Eb2 to E2 but I'm not the best at identifying lower pitches so might be wrong. Definitely at least F2 lol.
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Post by namainohana on Nov 28, 2021 13:40:00 GMT
Great pronunciation of japanese btw. The lowest note is G#2. Overall very good version.
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Post by mehrhs9 on Nov 28, 2021 13:52:23 GMT
Great pronunciation of japanese btw. The lowest note is G#2. Overall very good version. finally a positive comment lol |
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Post by Aardvark on Nov 28, 2021 14:19:00 GMT
Great pronunciation of japanese btw. The lowest note is G#2. Overall very good version. Now we’re commending people for pronunciation? Come on man. Are you really here to discuss Dimash’s vocals or are you just trolling? |
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Post by malifalitic0 on Nov 28, 2021 20:17:10 GMT
youtu.be/-gOC74V6F20?t=3m54ssome dark Eb5's.He did the best one imo in Kiev Concert in "Let It Be".Also he hits the Eb5 in the dark way in Qairan Elim too.Your Love has a pretty solid dark E5 but he only hits it once.There are other darkened Eb5's and E5's but I can't recall atm.I'll edit this if I remember ofc if anyone's interested.
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Post by kaji on Nov 28, 2021 20:42:23 GMT
another crazy lipsync performance but this time does not have enough taste.. premiere far better literally proved I was right. Mediocre performance in live parts, tasteless lipsync parts meeeh so sad Terrible ending note(F#5) obviously could not hit it for 20sec and caught up in vibrato literally the most instable vibrato there is(after 3.57 epic fail). Low parts are all lipsync. After 2.14 some tasteless lipsync some A5 some A1-G#1(uncountable obv), soft E6, sounds very amazing. Even ascolta la voce parts are lipsync. After E6 lipsync part, he fails to hit "ground" parts(C#5) with a clear tone(sounds like his throat is not smooth) that's why he hits "in a stranger's land" using higher part of his voice(b2b F#5s) to avoid this problem. (genius to execute this in a very short time to be fair) Beginning parts where he sings live and soft are great. Overall nice(8/10) but nowhere near "out of this world" performance from him. You edit your post to say even more stupidity. Gosh, where's your brain, man? I've researched Dimash's singing pretty extensively since his debut, and I have never ever heard him 'hit' let alone sing any dark E5. In fact, I can't think of any male singers who have this ability. Pitches up there generally will be very bright, even with darkening. Dimash generally keeps his sound VERY bright throughout his entire range. Which is how he can even get to the pitches he does. The love of tired swans kiev isn't dark? I mean, it's definately not bright... Absolutely bright lol. That is not dark singing. youtu.be/-gOC74V6F20?t=3m54ssome dark Eb5's.He did the best one imo in Kiev Concert in "Let It Be".Also he hits the Eb5 in the dark way in Qairan Elim too.Your Love has a pretty solid dark E5 but he only hits it once.There are other darkened Eb5's and E5's but I can't recall atm.I'll edit this if I remember ofc if anyone's interested. That's very bright. Not dark singing. Dark singing (some brightness in there too but mostly darker) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lol4sVlkQZI&t=163sActual dark singing in a high range (female singer - mezzo-soprano) - youtu.be/XPXqrOEmMwA?t=124Dark singing (tenor) - youtu.be/I8Q4vpE9DAs?t=148Dark singing (baritone) - youtu.be/oH9DQWQc4yQ?t=149Dark singing (lyric soprano) - youtu.be/VTYjkmDScU4?t=179Dark singing (dramatic soprano) - youtu.be/SL8B-sSQSZ4?t=173 Actual dark singing from Dimash - youtu.be/8k1AHMxq-0g?t=221 This is a truly darkened sound for him (and not darkened by a lot I might add - it is the opposite usually, he brightens a lot which is how he can even get as high as he can, through shortening of the vocal tract and narrowing his epiglottic funnel). |
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Post by namainohana on Nov 28, 2021 21:11:50 GMT
Wow that lyric soprano is this surprised woman(because she could not hear dimashs f#5) youtu.be/N23NpxRpgJA?t=215 , I had no idea she was a top tier singer. not tryna flex but I have some legendary memory dammmnn |
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Post by kaji on Nov 28, 2021 21:19:22 GMT
Wow that lyric soprano is this surprised woman(because she could not hear dimashs f#5) youtu.be/N23NpxRpgJA?t=215 , I had no idea she was a top tier singer. not tryna flex but I have some legendary memory dammmnn Yes, if you look around in Dimash's bigger performances, there's typically a lot of very good singers in the first few rows of the audience. I'd love to see Han Hong duet with him one day. Though considering she is largely a singer popular only in China (she did have a duet with Vitas that was fairly popular though). I'd also love to see Dimash duet with a genuine bass singer, for example Glenn Miller (who on the sidenote should really have a thread on this forum). Dimash usually duets with sopranos (and those who sound fairly similar to him in terms of technique so it doesn't really impress me as much) and I'd want to hear something new from him in terms of duets. |
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Post by damnitall on Nov 28, 2021 23:32:42 GMT
youtu.be/-gOC74V6F20?t=3m54ssome dark Eb5's.He did the best one imo in Kiev Concert in "Let It Be".Also he hits the Eb5 in the dark way in Qairan Elim too.Your Love has a pretty solid dark E5 but he only hits it once.There are other darkened Eb5's and E5's but I can't recall atm.I'll edit this if I remember ofc if anyone's interested. Great singing. Is he singing in Turkish? Never heard that. The sustained eb5 is definately bright, but the rest is kinda dark indeed You edit your post to say even more stupidity. Gosh, where's your brain, man? The love of tired swans kiev isn't dark? I mean, it's definately not bright... Absolutely bright lol. That is not dark singing. youtu.be/-gOC74V6F20?t=3m54ssome dark Eb5's.He did the best one imo in Kiev Concert in "Let It Be".Also he hits the Eb5 in the dark way in Qairan Elim too.Your Love has a pretty solid dark E5 but he only hits it once.There are other darkened Eb5's and E5's but I can't recall atm.I'll edit this if I remember ofc if anyone's interested. That's very bright. Not dark singing. Dark singing (some brightness in there too but mostly darker) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lol4sVlkQZI&t=163sActual dark singing in a high range (female singer - mezzo-soprano) - youtu.be/XPXqrOEmMwA?t=124Dark singing (tenor) - youtu.be/I8Q4vpE9DAs?t=148Dark singing (baritone) - youtu.be/oH9DQWQc4yQ?t=149Dark singing (lyric soprano) - youtu.be/VTYjkmDScU4?t=179Dark singing (dramatic soprano) - youtu.be/SL8B-sSQSZ4?t=173 Actual dark singing from Dimash - youtu.be/8k1AHMxq-0g?t=221 This is a truly darkened sound for him (and not darkened by a lot I might add - it is the opposite usually, he brightens a lot which is how he can even get as high as he can, through shortening of the vocal tract and narrowing his epiglottic funnel). Are you trying to compare the darkness of a 3rd octave with an e5? The e5 I mentioned has the same darkness as his d5s y'all call dark. Wow that lyric soprano is this surprised woman(because she could not hear dimashs f#5) youtu.be/N23NpxRpgJA?t=215 , I had no idea she was a top tier singer. not tryna flex but I have some legendary memory dammmnn Yes, if you look around in Dimash's bigger performances, there's typically a lot of very good singers in the first few rows of the audience. I'd love to see Han Hong duet with him one day. Though considering she is largely a singer popular only in China (she did have a duet with Vitas that was fairly popular though). I'd also love to see Dimash duet with a genuine bass singer, for example Glenn Miller (who on the sidenote should really have a thread on this forum). Dimash usually duets with sopranos (and those who sound fairly similar to him in terms of technique so it doesn't really impress me as much) and I'd want to hear something new from him in terms of duets. Maybe once he comes to the USA he will be singing with more people. |
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Post by damnitall on Nov 29, 2021 0:09:39 GMT
Are you trying to compare the darkness of a 3rd octave with an e5? The e5 I mentioned has the same darkness as his d5s y'all call dark. Who's 'yall'. I never called his D5s dark. And none of the clips except Ponselle's low were third octave lol. Dimash is at least in his low fourth octave. He isn't even belting. And his d5s are dark af. You have called them dark before actually. They aren't as dark as his c4s but they are dark. Not even Pavarotti could darken as much as him up there (if pav didn't want to, then that's another talk) |
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Post by kaji on Nov 29, 2021 0:52:26 GMT
Who's 'yall'. I never called his D5s dark. And none of the clips except Ponselle's low were third octave lol. Dimash is at least in his low fourth octave. He isn't even belting. And his d5s are dark af. You have called them dark before actually. They aren't as dark as his c4s but they are dark. Not even Pavarotti could darken as much as him up there (if pav didn't want to, then that's another talk) Where have I called his top notes dark lol? And Dimash's top notes are way brighter than that of Pavarotti... (saying this as someone who has notewatched both men) And yes, in certain songs (Ogni Pietra) he can keep his true darkness up to a certain point, and that certain point is around A4, and I have stated this before. He is a tenor, I am not expecting him to be able to sing dark higher than that. |
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Post by Aardvark on Nov 29, 2021 3:35:19 GMT
Who's 'yall'. I never called his D5s dark. And none of the clips except Ponselle's low were third octave lol. Dimash is at least in his low fourth octave. He isn't even belting. And his d5s are dark af. You have called them dark before actually. They aren't as dark as his c4s but they are dark. Not even Pavarotti could darken as much as him up there (if pav didn't want to, then that's another talk) There is not a single note Dimash has ever hit that would be “dark af”. His voice is quite literally the opposite of dark roughly 99% of the time. As Kaji said, Dimash is a tenor and it would be rather unusual for him to be darkening at the pitches you’re claiming. Trust me, believe it when Kaji says it. He’s kind of a vocal expert when it comes to mechanisms of the voice. |
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Post by mehrhs9 on Nov 29, 2021 6:40:07 GMT
Dimash is at least in his low fourth octave. He isn't even belting. And his d5s are dark af. You have called them dark before actually. They aren't as dark as his c4s but they are dark. Not even Pavarotti could darken as much as him up there (if pav didn't want to, then that's another talk) Where have I called his top notes dark lol? And Dimash's top notes are way brighter than that of Pavarotti... (saying this as someone who has notewatched both men) And yes, in certain songs (Ogni Pietra) he can keep his true darkness up to a certain point, and that certain point is around A4, and I have stated this before. He is a tenor, I am not expecting him to be able to sing dark higher than that. just out of Curiosity do you considered c5 in yeli a dark note? it seems that i can't tell lol |
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