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Post by dostoyevsky on May 29, 2021 21:16:22 GMT
He is higher than E6 and lower than F6 at the very beginning but around the last staccato he hits F6 |
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Post by gimmingporkshire on May 29, 2021 21:30:23 GMT
He is higher than E6 and lower than F6 at the very beginning but around the last staccato he hits F6 You mean he's pitchy in the beginning? |
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Post by dostoyevsky on May 30, 2021 5:12:07 GMT
He is higher than E6 and lower than F6 at the very beginning but around the last staccato he hits F6 You mean he's pitchy in the beginning? No he is hitting an unknown note E#6 |
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Post by gimmingporkshire on Jun 3, 2021 3:21:49 GMT
Found this recently: a live performance of Love of Tired Swans, in Kiev, March 2020. He hits the e6 in 3:55, but it sounds off to me. Is it actually flat? In the official video it's perfect, but maybe they corrected the pitch later (?)... youtu.be/_hjGuEUXgUc |
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Post by dostoyevsky on Jun 4, 2021 5:56:09 GMT
Someone in the audience hit E6 in whistle voice(might be E7). Dimash is flat on E6 then hits D6 which is in his comfortable head voice range. youtu.be/2nQy9vJ1kGg?t=240 check this one this is a rare live LOTS performance(hits a D6).Besides in SOS which he climbs to E6 from C# and D6 I don't think he is comfortable with hitting E6 directly. |
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Post by malifalitic0 on Jun 4, 2021 16:31:19 GMT
he doesn't hit F6 in the beginning but he ascends and hits F6 a few times 6 times to be exact Found this recently: a live performance of Love of Tired Swans, in Kiev, March 2020. He hits the e6 in 3:55, but it sounds off to me. Is it actually flat? In the official video it's perfect, but maybe they corrected the pitch later (?)... youtu.be/_hjGuEUXgUche is even sharp somewhere in the middle of the note.it's just that he tightens his throat, doesn't sound like a free note.and yeah they fixed that note in the version in his channel.they fixed the E5 belts a little bit too. |
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Post by gimmingporkshire on Jun 4, 2021 16:52:49 GMT
Someone in the audience hit E6 in whistle voice(might be E7). Dimash is flat on E6 then hits D6 which is in his comfortable head voice range. youtu.be/2nQy9vJ1kGg?t=240 check this one this is a rare live LOTS performance(hits a D6).Besides in SOS which he climbs to E6 from C# and D6 I don't think he is comfortable with hitting E6 directly. That D6 also sounds weird, bit flat to my ears. He was visably tired during that mini concert. Found this recently: a live performance of Love of Tired Swans, in Kiev, March 2020. He hits the e6 in 3:55, but it sounds off to me. Is it actually flat? In the official video it's perfect, but maybe they corrected the pitch later (?)... youtu.be/_hjGuEUXgUche is even sharp somewhere in the middle of the note.it's just that he tightens his throat, doesn't sound like a free note.and yeah they fixed that note in the version in his channel.they fixed the E5 belts a little bit too. The e5 sounds good to me regardless. But yeah, the e6 was very flat. Way outside his tessitura. A d6 is still manageable. Dimash was touring (which is a terrible idea), and he was already quite tired. |
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Post by kaji on Jun 4, 2021 20:59:57 GMT
Just sounds like an attempt at F6 to me. He doesn't go past E6 there. You could potentially spoiler the F6 as [1] but not so sure about that. slow the video down Still not countable dude (and it's for the most part a sharp E). Too brief. Which is why I said [1]. |
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Post by malifalitic0 on Jun 5, 2021 0:23:28 GMT
Still not countable dude (and it's for the most part a sharp E). Too brief. Which is why I said [1]. well I think it shows he can hit it for a long period of time but I'm not really familiar with how notes are accepted here so you might be right not for the most part tho,he hits sharp E6 three times and F6 six times. |
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Post by dostoyevsky on Jun 5, 2021 14:58:05 GMT
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Post by gimmingporkshire on Aug 7, 2021 22:16:32 GMT
Question: do you guys consider Dimash's soprano voice achieved through falsetto or head voice? I've seen one opera singer and vocal coach calling it falsetto, but most coaches call it head. One even says it is flageolet. What is it?
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Post by Aardvark on Aug 7, 2021 23:20:14 GMT
Question: do you guys consider Dimash's soprano voice achieved through falsetto or head voice? I've seen one opera singer and vocal coach calling it falsetto, but most coaches call it head. One even says it is flageolet. What is it? Falsetto and head voice are the same; head voice refers to resonance that appears to come from the head, a resonance achieved almost entirely by separating the vocal folds to produce falsetto. It's simply been divided amongst the population to where many call it falsetto and others call it head voice. If you are referring to mixed voice, which is the register where lower chest resonance is combined with falsetto to create a sound in between, then that is where many of Dimash's high notes fall. However, his operatic soprano notes are almost exclusively falsetto. |
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Post by jessicavey on Aug 19, 2021 21:42:56 GMT
Question: do you guys consider Dimash's soprano voice achieved through falsetto or head voice? I've seen one opera singer and vocal coach calling it falsetto, but most coaches call it head. One even says it is flageolet. What is it? Falsetto and head voice are the same; head voice refers to resonance that appears to come from the head, a resonance achieved almost entirely by separating the vocal folds to produce falsetto. It's simply been divided amongst the population to where many call it falsetto and others call it head voice. If you are referring to mixed voice, which is the register where lower chest resonance is combined with falsetto to create a sound in between, then that is where many of Dimash's high notes fall. However, his operatic soprano notes are almost exclusively falsetto. Head voice and falsetto is not the same. It's the same register but not the same technique/overall coordination. Whether vocals can be considered head voice or falsetto depends on the degree of vocal fold closure. Operatic singing requires vocal fold closure, high operatic M2 vocals are always head voice. This is the scientific consent. BUT in the old, antiquated approach of Bel Canto, they simply used to differ based on sex. Female = head voice, male = falsetto.. which is an absolutely outdated appeoach. Both sexes can sing both falsetto and head voice. Mix is not a register btw |
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Post by dostoyevski on Aug 20, 2021 16:07:34 GMT
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Post by gimmingporkshire on Aug 20, 2021 20:13:00 GMT
Unbelievable that 20 sec f#5. But, is it just me or that f6 kinda sounds more processed than usual? |
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Post by dostoyevski on Aug 20, 2021 20:35:20 GMT
I have listened the original audio and pardon me, lowest note is C2 I though It was C3 when I first listened. Dimash is officially over 6 octaves (C2-D8)
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Post by dostoyevski on Aug 20, 2021 20:36:29 GMT
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Post by SailorBlue on Aug 20, 2021 22:08:27 GMT
That C2 would be a F2-G2, F2 is still the lowest there
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Post by gimmingporkshire on Aug 20, 2021 22:20:55 GMT
Interestingly enough, in that very moment you mentioned, he quickly drops to a fryish tone, in my hearing. Maybe it's countable (considering it is a c2), but TRP probably would classify that as 'short dip'. Depends. |
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Post by Karen’s Kickassarole on Aug 20, 2021 22:50:36 GMT
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Post by malifalitic0 on Aug 20, 2021 23:02:26 GMT
I have listened the original audio and pardon me, lowest note is C2 I though It was C3 when I first listened. Dimash is officially over 6 octaves (C2-D8) I don't agree with the C2.there are tons of vocal range videos that count ridiculous growls like ascolta la voca and stuff btw.some claim he hits C1 and so on.C2 is in the melodic line of the song tho,but dimash uses fry down there.you don't hear a clear fundamental note like when you hear the E2 in love of tired swans,or the F2s in this song. Unbelievable that 20 sec f#5. But, is it just me or that f6 kinda sounds more processed than usual? the E6 in river of love is more raw.the 6th octave stuff is generally overplayed with that I sometimes don't like what I hear but that's rare. |
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Post by valsalva on Aug 21, 2021 5:27:26 GMT
I have listened the original audio and pardon me, lowest note is C2 I though It was C3 when I first listened. Dimash is officially over 6 octaves (C2-D8) I don't agree with the C2.there are tons of vocal range videos that count ridiculous growls like ascolta la voca and stuff btw.some claim he hits C1 and so on.C2 is in the melodic line of the song tho,but dimash uses fry down there.you don't hear a clear fundamental note like when you hear the E2 in love of tired swans,or the F2s in this song. I guess my question would be, does fry count in vocal range here? Even other Dimash fry notes are counted here. If it doesn’t count, then why are we counting whistle notes, like the dimash D8? I can understand not including the first octave growl notes, but if fry is not countable I don’t think whistle should be as well. The Adam Lambert E2 counted here is a good example. Equally as impressive as the Dimash growls. |
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