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Post by amadeusd on Nov 20, 2024 3:58:30 GMT
I was talking about you. Anyways, didn't you say that you want to leave it? Looks like you are backtracking. And I was, clearly, talking about you. I don't do shitty passive aggressive Twitter nonsense. No. I left the 'falsetto' issue because that's a massive can of worms around these parts. Point-scoring is a child's game. |
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Post by ebitan on Nov 20, 2024 11:28:50 GMT
I was talking about you. Anyways, didn't you say that you want to leave it? Looks like you are backtracking. And I was, clearly, talking about you. I don't do shitty passive aggressive Twitter nonsense. No. I left the 'falsetto' issue because that's a massive can of worms around these parts. Point-scoring is a child's game. You are going in circles now. Stonewalling is clearly the easier option rather than accepting the possibility that you could be wrong on an opinion or providing elaborations to your point of view. Also the fact that falsetto being such a taboo subject here really speaks a lot about the amateur quality of discussions. Falsetto is literally just airy headvoice, nothing mystical about it. |
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Post by Bink on Nov 20, 2024 11:29:45 GMT
you both need to shush. This is about notes. There is literally no need for this argument to be going on this long.
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Post by Steingrim on Nov 20, 2024 11:47:46 GMT
And I was, clearly, talking about you. I don't do shitty passive aggressive Twitter nonsense. No. I left the 'falsetto' issue because that's a massive can of worms around these parts. Point-scoring is a child's game. You are going in circles now. Stonewalling is clearly the easier option rather than accepting the possibility that you could be wrong on an opinion or providing elaborations to your point of view. Also the fact that falsetto being such a taboo subject here really speaks a lot about the amateur quality of discussions. Falsetto is literally just airy headvoice, nothing mystical about it. You seem to be using two different systems of terminology. Mechanism | ebitan | amadeusd | | M1 | chest | chest/mix/head M2 | falsetto/head | falsetto |
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Post by amadeusd on Nov 20, 2024 18:37:04 GMT
you both need to shush. This is about notes. There is literally no need for this argument to be going on this long. Kids need correcting. Also, the topic was the register in which certain notes are being produced by the singer the thread is for. So, yeah.... |
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Post by Goober on Nov 20, 2024 18:46:26 GMT
holy shit  |
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Post by VocalDudeGuy on Nov 20, 2024 19:19:17 GMT
you both need to shush. This is about notes. There is literally no need for this argument to be going on this long. Kids need correcting. Also, the topic was the register in which certain notes are being produced by the singer the thread is for. So, yeah.... Tbf the convo kinda got off topic after a certain point. |
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Post by ebitan on Nov 20, 2024 21:21:08 GMT
you both need to shush. This is about notes. There is literally no need for this argument to be going on this long. Kids need correcting. Also, the topic was the register in which certain notes are being produced by the singer the thread is for. So, yeah.... You sure got corrected. Though apparently with how "grown-up" you are trying to portray yourself, the first reaction you have towards an opposing point of view is resorting to stone-walling and belittlement. Humility and healthy discussion, apparently, aren't for adults. Calling others "kid" also makes it even doubtful of your supposed non-kid-like maturity. Exchanging about registers of notes sung by the singer is all fair and relevant, yes. The problem was rather the end of the exchange where you were spining at each other; that was unnecessary. Please just avoid it in the future Sure, I will shall stop engaging this meaningless back and forth. Was initially expecting a productive discussion and possibly sorting out some opinions regarding head voice and whistle. You are going in circles now. Stonewalling is clearly the easier option rather than accepting the possibility that you could be wrong on an opinion or providing elaborations to your point of view. Also the fact that falsetto being such a taboo subject here really speaks a lot about the amateur quality of discussions. Falsetto is literally just airy headvoice, nothing mystical about it. You seem to be using two different systems of terminology. Mechanism | ebitan | amadeusd | | M1 | chest | chest/mix/head M2 | falsetto/head | falsetto Head and Chest are clearly separate registers imo. |
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Post by Yojojo on Nov 20, 2024 22:18:58 GMT
and so, the Dimash thread is officially back to normal
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Post by Bink on Nov 21, 2024 0:16:59 GMT
The consequences are none but my own.
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Post by Steingrim on Nov 21, 2024 5:30:18 GMT
You seem to be using two different systems of terminology. Mechanism | ebitan | amadeusd | | M1 | chest | chest/mix/head M2 | falsetto/head | falsetto Head and Chest are clearly separate registers imo. In the system that you use - yes, but the term head is used to refer to singing above the passaggi in modal voice in the system that he uses. Different systems of terminology is a source of endless confusion in discussions on the voice. |
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Post by Skinner, The Betrayed on Nov 21, 2024 5:48:36 GMT
Exchanging about registers of notes sung by the singer is all fair and relevant, yes. The problem was rather the end of the exchange where you were spining at each other; that was unnecessary. Please just avoid it in the future  |
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Post by amadeusd on Nov 21, 2024 6:08:14 GMT
I actively tried to avoid the register delineation argument.
Fwiw, I see 'chest' and 'head' as two different registers too, but they're both modal voice so specifics are needed.
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Post by Steingrim on Nov 21, 2024 7:01:56 GMT
I actively tried to avoid the register delineation argument. Fwiw, I see 'chest' and 'head' as two different registers too, but they're both modal voice so specifics are needed. ebitan : He's singing D6 in head voice amadeusd : He's not singing D6 in head voice Both statements could be true, and in this case both are true. |
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Post by amadeusd on Nov 21, 2024 17:24:20 GMT
I actively tried to avoid the register delineation argument. Fwiw, I see 'chest' and 'head' as two different registers too, but they're both modal voice so specifics are needed. ebitan : He's singing D6 in head voice amadeusd : He's not singing D6 in head voice Both statements could be true, and in this case both are true. My point was that they (to me) seem clearly non-modal. Both can’t be true. Falsetto (as far as I’m concerned) is non modal. So yes terminology matters but there’s an objective factor at play in this one. |
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