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Post by 'S on Apr 27, 2022 12:04:56 GMT
Is this one of the questionable E6s? Yes Mack it's literally the first E6 linked right there in questionable notes idk why you're asking :scratch: What you're saying about the onset is right, but if you listen to it against his Opera #2 bold it's pretty obvious that it's just that line (granted a different vocal take ig), bumped up a full tone mid-sustain to D6, then again to E6. Just pushing the pitchshift slider to + things:  |
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Post by willimatteuzzi89 on Feb 26, 2023 2:52:11 GMT
El A6 para mi es totalmente legitimo
El Bb7 es el silbando literalmente
Los E6 tambien me parece legitimos
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Post by Breakfast in D-sharp on Feb 26, 2023 13:07:19 GMT
El A6 para mi es totalmente legitimo El Bb7 es el silbando literalmente Los E6 tambien me parece legitimos Google translate: "The A6 for me is totally legitimate The Bb7 is the whistling literally The E6 also seems legitimate to me" Is that correct? |
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Post by kaji on Feb 26, 2023 13:20:15 GMT
El A6 para mi es totalmente legitimo El Bb7 es el silbando literalmente Los E6 tambien me parece legitimos Doubt you're actually William but I'll still address you as such. None of these notes are legitimate. Vitas is notorious for faking high notes. |
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Post by willimatteuzzi89 on Feb 26, 2023 13:30:50 GMT
El A6 para mi es totalmente legitimo El Bb7 es el silbando literalmente Los E6 tambien me parece legitimos Doubt you're actually William but I'll still address you as such. None of these notes are legitimate. Vitas is notorious for faking high notes. Pues no no soy William porque el foro de dice que utilizará un nombre falso Pero no existe evidencia que indique finja notas altas el playback es solo en programas europeos ya que así es la política de aya |
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Post by willimatteuzzi89 on Feb 26, 2023 13:35:16 GMT
El A6 para mi es totalmente legitimo El Bb7 es el silbando literalmente Los E6 tambien me parece legitimos Google translate: "The A6 for me is totally legitimate The Bb7 is the whistling literally The E6 also seems legitimate to me" Is that correct? si , tratare de hablar mas en inglés
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youtu.be/sBMgAYxNeVAG6 en ensayo I believe that to analyze the high notes of vitas we should be objective and not be led by conspiracies or assumptions |
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Post by willimatteuzzi89 on Mar 1, 2023 5:40:30 GMT
That is exactly how we know these notes are not real :) Through educated observation of his voice both studio and live (not that the latter is a particularly common phenomenon). Moreover as a voice pedagogy student some of these are painfully NOT vocal. Necesito pruebas no especulaciones Sino también podríamos decir que su Eb6 es falso tambien |
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Post by EddieCheivz on Mar 1, 2023 5:53:53 GMT
That is exactly how we know these notes are not real :) Through educated observation of his voice both studio and live (not that the latter is a particularly common phenomenon). Moreover as a voice pedagogy student some of these are painfully NOT vocal. Necesito pruebas no especulaciones Sino también podríamos decir que su Eb6 es falso tambien First of all please speak in english! -1st: Do you need proofs? Really?? Lol well if you need evidences to show off that notes are obviuously shift-pitched then you should to work on your listening seriously. Do you really think he could be able to sound so comfortable and like nothing's gonna happend doing that sixth octaves notes so easily when it's pretty obvious how in other performances he need to struggle with himself to reach an C6-D6? And I could say manyyyy more points for this but... Notes in question themselves definitely doesn't worth at all for do It. And once again, please speak in english, this is an international forum, Me for myself can tell you spanish is my first language too, but I talk here on english cause I know here we all need to communicate on same context than rest of friends/folks |
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Post by willimatteuzzi89 on Mar 1, 2023 5:58:58 GMT
Necesito pruebas no especulaciones Sino también podríamos decir que su Eb6 es falso tambien First of all please speak in english! -1st: Do you need proofs? Really?? Lol well if you need evidences to show off that notes are obviuously shift-pitched then you should to work on your listening seriously. Do you really think he could be able to sound so comfortable and like nothing's gonna happend doing that sixth octaves notes so easily when it's pretty obvious how in other performances he need to struggle with himself to reach an C6-D6? And I could say manyyyy more points for this but... Notes in question themselves definitely doesn't worth at all for do It. And once again, please speak in english, this is an international forum, Me for myself can tell you spanish is my first language too, but I talk here on english cause I know here we all need to communicate on same context than rest of friends/folks It turns out that now you tell me what language I should speak and obviously evidence is needed otherwise we would accuse anyone If at a certain time it was more difficult for Vitas to make certain notes and now it is less difficult, it is because there is something called a singing class, I don't know if you knew end of discussion the owner of the thread makes the decisions I only gave my point of view and give arguments not theories |
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Post by BAZanine on Mar 1, 2023 7:03:55 GMT
When we consider the countability of notes, especially ones that seem pitch-shifted/faked (at least to a decent crop of our userbase) or ones that appear in the form of ambiguous backing vocals or the like, we tend to err on the side of caution. When we publish this information, obviously we want it to be as reliable as it can reasonably be. That's why we only count notes that we can say with surety the singer could have reasonably replicated at that point in their career given the right warm-ups/what have you. Obviously in a vacuum, if we could tell for sure that Vitas was actually hitting these notes, they would be countable on account of their melodic intent and sustain, but there is a clear discrepancy here between the notes that have been counted on this thread and the ones we're not counting. Vitas is "hitting" some of these notes with nigh inhuman amounts of ease for his placement. The tone of these notes remains remarkably clean, to the point that outside of their context they begin to barely sound like his voice. Those same qualities do not apply to what we have counted. For our purposes, this "speculation" we're doing is simple discretion between the qualities of these notes and reaching what is the most physiologically probable conclusion.
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Post by jaredletoisbackagain on Mar 1, 2023 7:55:21 GMT
youtu.be/sBMgAYxNeVAG6 en ensayo I believe that to analyze the high notes of vitas we should be objective and not be led by conspiracies or assumptions He even forgets to get the mic back in front of his mouth in time for the playback note at 0:33 |
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Post by willimatteuzzi89 on Mar 1, 2023 20:01:16 GMT
off topic I am surprised that the thread of vitas is more active than other EJ members of "Queen"
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Post by IhateMana on Mar 6, 2023 8:39:39 GMT
found this old af Opera #2 where he's definitely singing the high notes for real. there's no new notes in it, i just thought it was cool.
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Post by 'S on Mar 7, 2023 10:45:37 GMT
found this old af Opera #2 where he's definitely singing the high notes for real. there's no new notes in it, i just thought it was cool. Yeah IIRC that performance was what this post linked to, the video having been removed and reuploaded since - Granted, he has lipped through most of his concerts but to be fair to him, in the early years (like 2002 and earlier) he had a fair few live performances. Those linked in the thread as well as the likes of this performance. |
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Post by willimatteuzzi89 on Mar 9, 2023 6:03:59 GMT
found this old af Opera #2 where he's definitely singing the high notes for real. there's no new notes in it, i just thought it was cool. |
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Post by IhateMana on Mar 9, 2023 6:53:26 GMT
that one actually sounds like the studio track set as playback. he's even doing the microphone trick lol
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