Matt Bellamy (52,653 views)

[Henny Macc]

Didn't we establish a while ago that the "Execution Commentary" F♯2 was actually third octave, and the "Blackout" G2 probably wasn't him?

There are also still a lot of the actual good second octave notes from his TRP3 thread missing, from the various clips of him talking about the songs off Simulation Theory and singing their bass lines/riffs.

[EddieCheivz]

-I think the G2 is Matt, i don't know who else could sing it (almost sure isn't Chris) and judging by that airy notes, make sense they're from a light voice like him.
-Yeah, some missing low notes:


E2


B2


B2

BTW i'm pretty sure the B5 in Knights Of Cydonia, in the same way many notes above G♯5 should be in blue, about that B5 sounds good, but it is really sufficiently impressive to bold?

[SailorBlue]

please, for the love of god don't count that D6

[Gatr]

Jul 29, 2020 0:54:15 GMT SailorBlue said:

please, for the love of god don't count that D6

I'm gonna have to agree with that sentiment

[Captain Planet]

[Baronessa]

No.

[clem]

If it's in green, so it's clearly marked as a different technique from his usual highs, I don't see why it shouldn't be counted. He seems to intentionally hit and hold that pitch. The tone is nasty, but that in itself shouldn't disqualify it.

[EddieCheivz]

I think tone is an important fact at time count notes, the tone shows note quality and it basically define how good was produced by singer, i think for things like that, it exists in questionable notes types i've seen something like: not enough pitch to include.
I've always thinking that D6 lacks of tone to count it, even when the note sounds good hitted

[aphelion]

youtu.be/Ftr8XiwJvUE?t=70

Found this today, the scream sounds like a C5 in full voice to me but I’m not sure if it’s countable due to the tone of it, or if it’s a C5 at all. Anyone else have an opinion on this?

Edit: sorry for the inactivity, I’ve not been able to edit the thread properly because I don’t have my laptop but should be able to get back to work soon. I’ve got a few new notes to add that weren’t even on the original thread as well as the ones that you guys want me to add.

Edit 2: sounds like a B4 to me now

[lacslacs]

There are some serious colouring issues in my opinion.

We shouldn't have these many notes coloured in black in the D5, E5, F#5, F5, etc sections (like we know that Matt's chest voice starts to struggle from A#4. He even ducks some originally modal A4's live and sing them falsettos instead. Example : madness, city of Delusion...)

I think that black should be restricted to modal notes.

- When it's modal + strong/outstanding (A4's and A#4's like madness, big freeze, city of Delusion, Dead inside, handler...), It should be black + bold

- When it's falsetto + strong/outstanding (G5 and G#5 of showbiz, Survival, microcuts... F#5 of plug... E5 of Shrinking universe, D5 of handler...), It should be blue + bold

It's only my humble suggestion and you can ignore it of course. But I think it that would be in harmony and fair with all the other singers' threads.

[jaredletoisbackagain]

This site moved away from trying to colour modal/full voiced notes separately some time ago as a way of trying to go by sound rather than any notions that we have about what's going on inside someone's throat. But in Matt's case I'd be inclined to agree because 99 times out of a hundred, the register is super obvious. He doesn't really dabble I'm masked head voice or mixing aside from maybe a handful of times in his whole career. It's just chest or falsetto

[aphelion]

Aug 11, 2020 9:20:11 GMT lacslacs said:

There are some serious colouring issues in my opinion.

We shouldn't have these many notes coloured in black in the D5, E5, F#5, F5, etc sections (like we know that Matt's chest voice starts to struggle from A#4. He even ducks some originally modal A4's live and sing them falsettos instead. Example : madness, city of Delusion...)

I think that black should be restricted to modal notes.

- When it's modal + strong/outstanding (A4's and A#4's like madness, big freeze, city of Delusion, Dead inside, handler...), It should be black + bold

- When it's falsetto + strong/outstanding (G5 and G#5 of showbiz, Survival, microcuts... F#5 of plug... E5 of Shrinking universe, D5 of handler...), It should be blue + bold

It's only my humble suggestion and you can ignore it of course. But I think it that would be in harmony and fair with all the other singers' threads.

There are a lot of singers threads which have the same say to colour notes here, with blue indicating “clear falsetto”. I’ve had requests to set it like this rather than have all the falsetto notes blue. The original thread on TRP3 had the same colour grading philosophy with harsh falsetto the same colour as modal notes because they’re not obviously falsetto due to the tone of them. The thread about how to include notes states this: “if it has a 'hooty' or clearly disconnected, soft sound we consider it falsetto all the same.” I wouldn’t say any of the notes are “hooty” or “soft” but I have indicated the ones which do for clarification.

[jaredletoisbackagain]

Just noticed that you're crediting Invincible for a G#4. Are you sure that's right? The significant notes in that song (after the solo) are A4 and G4.

[aphelion]

Aug 16, 2020 11:52:44 GMT jaredletoisbackagain said:

Just noticed that you're crediting Invincible for a G#4. Are you sure that's right? The significant notes in that song (after the solo) are A4 and G4.

“Turn THINGS (G#4) around” will add the G4 too

[jaredletoisbackagain]

Oh yes, forgot about that for some reason. But again, A4 on "DURING the struggle"

[aphelion]

Aug 16, 2020 14:49:28 GMT jaredletoisbackagain said:

Oh yes, forgot about that for some reason. But again, A4 on "DURING the struggle"

oh yeah that’s not on there, not gonna lie I thought I added that, good spot

[Gilad]

I'd say the G4 in Prague is more boldable than Globalist or Resistance. And I think the bold Eb5 from Survival, as well as the F5 from showbiz, are unnecessary.

[aphelion]

Just found a great C6 from 2013. He doesn't have to slide up to reach the 6th octave like he normally does and he sustains it for a good amount of time too. Thought I'd share it in case anyone asked about it:
(its at 1:35)
dai.ly/x58f9f1

[jaredletoisbackagain]

Man, it's truly the curse of this forum's need to redo threads to rediscover the same notes over and over, lol.

[aphelion]

Sept 1, 2020 18:00:06 GMT jaredletoisbackagain said:

Man, it's truly the curse of this forum's need to redo threads to rediscover the same notes over and over, lol.

Yeah, I'm not too familiar with TRP lore lmao. Is there a reason it has been redone so many times? Or is it just a hosting thing?

[jaredletoisbackagain]

Yeah in Matt Bellamy's case it's mostly hosting. It's not been redone as many times as certain other threads which seem to be completely re-researched every time a new album is released.

[aphelion]

Sept 1, 2020 20:55:23 GMT jaredletoisbackagain said:

Yeah in Matt Bellamy's case it's mostly hosting. It's not been redone as many times as certain other threads which seem to be completely re-researched every time a new album is released.

That makes sense I guess. Find it a bit weird having to re-research after every album.

Also sorry if I find a bunch of old notes, I'd just never heard that one before and it wasn't in the old thread, it also wasn't on any videos I searched for.

[jaredletoisbackagain]

You don't have to apologise. If you listen through the performances of Agitated between 2013 and 2015 (there aren't that many of them) you'll find loads of notes in that range. Also loads of chest B4s and some C5s in performances of Yes Please during the same time period

[EddieCheivz]

Is there any reason to include a G#4 from that Micro Cuts performance?

[aphelion]

Sept 2, 2020 18:57:56 GMT EddieCheivz said:

Is there any reason to include a G#4 from that Micro Cuts performance?

I only included it because it was from a performance where they played the metal medley, but when they got to the Micro Cuts riff, Matt did the descending vocals at the end an octave down. Tbh it shouldn't really be needed but he still hit a G4 in chest which I have included.