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Post by ballask on Oct 3, 2020 11:55:27 GMT
The new album by The Jaded Hearts is out, including "Fever" with Matt's vocals and some other songs with his backing vocals.
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aphelion
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Post by aphelion on Oct 20, 2020 23:34:03 GMT
I think there is a G5 and an F5 in the backing vocals of stockholm syndrome. I'm pretty sure that it's not an illusion so I have added them to the thread. I downloaded a multitrack of stockholm syndrome (from guitar hero lmao so the vocals and drums are sadly on one track) and noticed on the 2nd and 3rd choruses that there was an extra layer in the harmonies that weren’t in the 1st chorus. I've done some playing about with the mid and side channels and tried to get them as clear as possible and this is the best I could do because they are very quiet. I just need someone elses opinion on this so let me know what you think: soundcloud.com/aphelion_music/stockholm-backing/s-utjGPfmozsCI only hear F5 F5 is definitely there, I think the G5 is more prominent at about 20 seconds, maybe try it on a phone speaker or something I’ve found it to be easier to hear with a bad speaker lol |
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Post by Smitty. on Oct 21, 2020 3:26:26 GMT
-Talking about "Explorers", it seems there are missed lows from the lead vocals of the song: 2:08 B2 1:00 for spoiler ( there's) sounds similar to the C2 in "The Void" 1:10 C3 Also good A4 at 4:34 -I think the A2 in "Soldier's Poem" it's just an instrument: in the studio version the note it's barely audible and doesn't sounds particularly like a voice, and this isolated vocals video for example, throw away the A2 from the vocals and make it sounds even more like an instrument That A2 is not an instrument lol its matt just the A2 is VERYYYYYY buried and cool finds in soilders poem |
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Post by Smitty. on Dec 4, 2020 20:10:23 GMT
On The Discord me and aphelion shared the note former admin on TRP 2 and 3 MrToddington found it to be E7, he used some software to identify overtones but the thing is We don't know if its an overtone or notbut thats the correct pitch that he got from the software and shit at least |
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Post by onemorelight17 on Dec 4, 2020 20:14:37 GMT
On The Discord me and aphelion shared the note former admin on TRP 2 and 3 MrToddington found it to be E7, he used some software to identify overtones but the thing is We don't know if its an overtone or notbut thats the coorect pitch that he got from the software and shit at least besides the note is shit anyways. I'm getting D6 there. Yes, it has already been clarified that it is not countable lol. |
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Post by aphelion on Dec 4, 2020 23:09:26 GMT
theres no certain pitch tbh Yes I know hahaha. I've seen that note described as D6, E6, and even A6, but it's the first time I've seen it as something from the 7 octave I ran it through my own software and it’s peak was at E7. We still don’t know if was an overtone but there was actually no fundamental at D6 so it could be anything |
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Post by aphelion on Dec 5, 2020 12:08:01 GMT
What's the name of these softwares ? Just out of curiosity. Spectrogram Software, in my case one built into my music software which has a multiband EQ that displays what note corresponds to the frequency you create a peak at |
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Post by aphelion on Dec 5, 2020 16:39:07 GMT
Yeah I suspected that, I wouldn't rely on it, personally. How'd you know if you created the peak where the fundamental frequency lies? If, for instance, you're boosting 10db at 6kHz you'll probably end up with unwanted resonance that you'll then pitch together with the actual pitch of the note if that makes sense. You don’t need to boost anything for it to tell you what note it is, I made no changes to the gain so it was just the clean sound. I did an exact boost at 1.17 kHz, D6, and there was hardly any noise even when boosting 12db it barely made a difference to the sound which led me to believe it wasn’t a D6. I have however spoilered it as a D6/E7 because literally nobody can agree on the pitch of that note due to the quality. I definitely believe the E7 is an overtone, however |
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Post by aphelion on Dec 5, 2020 17:00:41 GMT
Considering the distortion effect on the microphone + several layers of audio compression I don't think a spectrum analyzer is going to be much help in determining any fundemental That is true, I guess I’ll just keep it at D6 until someone from the year 2030 does some crazy audio restoration that we can’t do yet so we can determine exactly what it is |
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Post by 1999 on Dec 5, 2020 17:17:39 GMT
Yeah I suspected that, I wouldn't rely on it, personally. How'd you know if you created the peak where the fundamental frequency lies? If, for instance, you're boosting 10db at 6kHz you'll probably end up with unwanted resonance that you'll then pitch together with the actual pitch of the note if that makes sense. You don’t need to boost anything for it to tell you what note it is, I made no changes to the gain so it was just the clean sound. I did an exact boost at 1.17 kHz, D6, and there was hardly any noise even when boosting 12db it barely made a difference to the sound which led me to believe it wasn’t a D6. I have however spoilered it as a D6/E7 because literally nobody can agree on the pitch of that note due to the quality. I definitely believe the E7 is an overtone, however That was my point, you'll never know the frequency fundamental, because we don't truly know the pitch of it. Anyway there's several stuff between a D6 and an E6 for instance, nobody can tell us if the note's exactly in tune, maybe that is way boosting at 1.17 kHz wasn't helping. Considering the amount of distortion on the mic, as Platypus said, it'll be a nightmare to actually analyse it. I hear it as a D6 though lol |
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Post by leafylemontree on Dec 5, 2020 23:45:36 GMT
Hello everyone. Well, i'm new in this kind of thing, and could be wrong in what i'm about to say. I tried isolating the vocals in Audacity with the help of the equalizer and even the noise reduction plugin, and, as far as am i aware, i think that the E7 note could potentially be an E5 with heavy distortion that cause overtones way above the fundamental. Link of a drive folder with images and a short clip. The "clip" image is related to the audio file. The others two are trying to emulate the effect on Matt's microphone with a Sawtooth wave and overdrive. As you can see, there are some hints in the frequency analysis window that maybe show proof of this. Another clue could be that he was singing in the low 5th octave, and there is even an Eb5 peak before the "D6/E7". What do you think about it? |
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