Matt Bellamy (52,638 views)

[Smitty.]

I agree.

[jaredletoisbackagain]

Matt was clearly singing a jazz chord.

[1999]

Quoting (pretty much) I do not remember who: "The fact itself that the note has been discussed that much doesn't make it thread-worth it."

Yeah, it was something like that lol

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Wise words, though

[aphelion]

Dec 6, 2020 1:23:10 GMT 1999 said:

Quoting (pretty much) I do not remember who: "The fact itself that the note has been discussed that much doesn't make it thread-worth it."

Yeah, it was something like that lol

SPOILER: Click to show

Wise words, though

that was me lmao, we’re arguing about a spoilered note that obviously will never be added to the actual thread

[1999]

You sure ? lol
I thought I read it much longer ago, like on TRP3/2 possibly.
Man, I'm getting old and confused

[Henny Macc]

Relevant again two pages later:

Sept 1, 2020 18:00:06 GMT jaredletoisbackagain said:

Man, it's truly the curse of this forum's need to redo threads to rediscover the same notes over and over, lol.

[BAZanine]

[EddieCheivz]

a bit of high notes:


1:22 rough C5, 2:30 A5


B♭5/B5?


G♯5

[aphelion]

Jan 8, 2021 3:36:22 GMT EddieCheivz said:

a bit of high notes:

SPOILER: Click to show

1:22 rough C5, 2:30 A5


B♭5/B5?


G♯5

I’m counting them all except for the Assassin B5. Do you reckon the C5 should be green because of how distorted it is or should I keep it italic to fit the thread better

[EddieCheivz]

Jan 8, 2021 19:14:27 GMT aphelion said:

Jan 8, 2021 3:36:22 GMT EddieCheivz said:

a bit of high notes:

SPOILER: Click to show

1:22 rough C5, 2:30 A5


B♭5/B5?


G♯5

I’m counting them all except for the Assassin B5. Do you reckon the C5 should be green because of how distorted it is or should I keep it italic to fit the thread better

-Yeah i know "assasin's whoa" isn't good, i share it just to spoiler it or something
-I'd say green isn't necessary for Matt, about C5 i think should be only in black, but definitely i don't think it qualify as a non melodic note, why not just black?, is more distorted than his average highs, yeah, but neither isn't so different to deserve a new color or other code
-NOTE: I know the comment in video says performance it's from Astoria 2000, but if i remember well, the concert actually was at Plymouth 1997

[Baronessa]

Time to start being mindful about those video quotes, guys.

[aliensweetheart]

Can we please finally come to the consensus that (virtually) every note above that B4 from "New Born" live at Leeds Festival (2011) must be colored blue?
I comprehend the difficulty of distinguishing vocal registers M1 and M2 in following cases:

- when the singer in question is particularly skilled in connecting both registers by singing in the passaggio utilizing mixed voice/head voice, making the transition seamless
- when the singer in question attacks the note in falsetto whilst adding distortion to it, giving the impression of it being more connected than it actually is

However, in the case of Matt, the cut off could hardly be any more clear! Matt is not, by any means, the sort of singer who applies foregoing techniques in his singing.
That B4 was unique, but that really is the terminus as regards his modal register. He cannot support any higher belts with open throat.
Just the pure, bright, piercing quality of his falsetto, should not be the fundamental cause of doubt concerning the classification (blue versus black) of those fifth octaves notes.

Unless a few notable examples of any control in the passaggio can be presented, I would like to defend his trademark, which is "falsetto singing", as a matter of fact.

[Gilad]

Yeah but even if Matt developed perfect technique and a mixed voice, his 5th octave wails wouldn't sound much different. They're supported and projected just like any Halford or Plant wail would be. The coloring isn't really about the vocal "cut off" these days, but more about how the note itself is sung.

[jaredletoisbackagain]

Jan 16, 2021 14:26:08 GMT Gilad said:

Yeah but even if Matt developed perfect technique and a mixed voice, his 5th octave wails wouldn't sound much different.

Very questionable statement.

Jan 16, 2021 14:26:08 GMT Gilad said:

They're supported and projected just like any Halford or Plant wail would be.

Not sure what you're saying here. No one is implying falsetto can't be super well-supported. Or are you saying they're supported in the same way as the high notes of those singers?

Jan 16, 2021 14:26:08 GMT Gilad said:

The coloring isn't really about the vocal "cut off" these days, but more about how the note itself is sung.

And in Matt's case, it's pretty obvious that

this www.youtube.com/watch?t=249&v=Ek0SgwWmF9w&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Muse

is nowhere near this www.youtube.com/watch?t=65&v=BF1DQr5dKW8&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Muse

In terms how it's produced or how it sounds

[Gilad]

I honestly was having some trouble wording my statements.
I was thinking on how to articulate my point for a couple minutes, but then I figured that maybe blue should just mean "chest vs falsetto/head voice", at least in Bellamy's case.

[1999]

I'd say the Handler is one of those borderline notes, I could see that as a blue note. At the same time something like Showbiz Gsharp or Micro Cuts Gs could be kind of out of place in blue.

[Henny Macc]

I see the argument in the sense that Bellamy's fifth octave notes usually aren't too blended with his upper fourth octave ones, and that he has an audible enough break between registers, but a lot of his upper fifth octave notes have the kind of power and resonance that we would pretty unquestionably color black in other threads. The only real difference here is how he sounds on the way back down from them.

[Gilad]

New solo album out called Cryosleep, with a holy shit breathtaking acoustic version of Take a Bow. Love hearing Matt's voice, especially his belts, this clearly.

[aphelion]

Jul 24, 2021 10:23:09 GMT Gilad said:

New solo album out called Cryosleep, with a holy shit breathtaking acoustic version of Take a Bow. Love hearing Matt's voice, especially his belts, this clearly.

those belts are VERY clear, my only problem is that they’re drowned in autotune :( most things that Matt self produces has a load of pitch correction and it’s kinda jarring after listening to his pretty much unaltered voice on showbiz and OoS

[Henny Macc]

How are we feelin' about dat new Muse song

I think I kind of went into it with the wrong expectations, because I read on Wikipedia that it was "a return to the band's heavier sound", so I figured that meant something like Black Holes and Revelations or Drones era material, which were both albums that I really liked. Instead, it turned out to be like 21 Pilots/Imagine Dragons-style modern pop on the verses crossed with...almost metalcore-ish elements on the choruses and stuff?

I have somewhat mixed feelings about it at the moment - there are some things that I think I like about it, but it also veers wayyy too much onto the metalcore side of things than I ever wanted to hear from Muse, particularly with that whole breakdown section from 3:02 to 3:20. I'll always respect their willingness to experiment and crossover into other genres, but certain ones may be better left untouched.

[SailorBlue]

I cried a little bit when I heard it. Not the good tears. But the kind that get spilled when one of the bands that you grew up listening to drop a song that sounds like Imagine Dragons and Limp Bizkit kissing.

[1999]

I thought the chorus was 100% muse, verses were okay, I suppose(?)

Even though some things may be better left untouched, I really liked that bridge lol

[aphelion]

As a metalcore fan I couldn’t help but smile…but those verses are not good and the whole song is vocally very safe unfortunately. It’s better than Dig Down and Psycho tho

[Henny Macc]

Jan 27, 2022 12:21:59 GMT aphelion said:

It’s better than Dig Down and Psycho tho

You take that back this instant 

[aphelion]

Jan 27, 2022 18:36:44 GMT Henny Macc said:

Jan 27, 2022 12:21:59 GMT aphelion said:

It’s better than Dig Down and Psycho tho

You take that back this instant 

NEVER!!!!!