David Bowie (52,333 views)

[Holsety]

I'd like some extra opinions on these notes. Bowie's range expansion in the past has been difficult for me to wrap my head around. Given his capacity to create overtones (ie "Lady Grinning Soul", which still isn't straightforward for everybody) it seems like something similar might be happening here, but I can't say for sure whether I think that is or isn't the case.

[halloweenjack95]

May 26, 2020 18:23:24 GMT Holsety said:

I'd like some extra opinions on these notes. Bowie's range expansion in the past has been difficult for me to wrap my head around. Given his capacity to create overtones (ie "Lady Grinning Soul", which still isn't straightforward for everybody) it seems like something similar might be happening here, but I can't say for sure whether I think that is or isn't the case.

Of course! No problem. I just discovered them so they are new to me,too. I've been listening to a lot of Bootlegs from the Diamond Dogs tour. 
I posted them because I wanted to hear some thoughts or opinion about the G5(?) and the D6's. 

[Baronessa]

I've been increasingly thinking that the way he comes down from that B5 (which I think goes up to C♯, by the way) to around E4 seems like a sign that it might be mad overtones.

The same could be the case here.

[halloweenjack95]

May 26, 2020 18:43:23 GMT Baronessa said:

I've been increasingly thinking that the way he comes down from that B5 (which I think goes up to C♯, by the way) to around E4 seems like a sign that it might be mad overtones.

The same could be the case here.

I dont think I can follow you lol.
To which note do you refer to? To the high note at the end of "Sweet thing reprise" or "Somebody up there likes me" ? 

[IhateMana]

those D6s definitely aren't overtones, but are you sure those are actually Bowie?

[halloweenjack95]

May 27, 2020 9:52:03 GMT IhateMana said:

those D6s definitely aren't overtones, but are you sure those are actually Bowie?

I am pretty sure actually. Especially if you compare it to the other high notes he did on the same show. They sound exactly like that. Not only on that show but during the entire tour. Plus you cant hear his "normal voice" in the backround but all of his backup singers.
Just compare the end of "Reprise"at 19:00 with the D6's.

Here is another example : youtu.be/QNxFM00sj54
It starts at 04:37

And here with some better sound: youtu.be/qa-0hAmt558
04:09

[Baronessa]

May 27, 2020 9:39:20 GMT halloweenjack95 said:

May 26, 2020 18:43:23 GMT Baronessa said:

I've been increasingly thinking that the way he comes down from that B5 (which I think goes up to C♯, by the way) to around E4 seems like a sign that it might be mad overtones.

The same could be the case here.

I dont think I can follow you lol.
To which note do you refer to? To the high note at the end of "Sweet thing reprise" or "Somebody up there likes me" ? 

The B5 in "All the Young Dudes".

[halloweenjack95]

Yeah we had a lot of discussions about the B5 from "All the young dudes".
But Mana asked if its even him. And you can clearly hear its Bowie. Probably even better on my previous post.

[Baronessa]

No, I agree, the notes are definitely Bowie.

What I'm saying is that the B5 in "All the Young Dudes" seems like it could be overtones from a B4, and that B5 sounds similar to the D6s in "Somebody Up There Likes Me". This makes me think either they're both overtones or neither are.

[halloweenjack95]

May 27, 2020 18:53:23 GMT Baronessa said:

No, I agree, the notes are definitely Bowie.

What I'm saying is that the B5 in "All the Young Dudes" seems like it could be overtones from a B4, and that B5 sounds similar to the D6s in "Somebody Up There Likes Me". This makes me think either they're both overtones or neither are.

Ah okey sorry my bad. I wasn't exactly sure what you referred to.

[andrassy]

D6 sounds pretty solid. Didn't know he had that in him.

[halloweenjack95]

May 27, 2020 23:28:10 GMT andrassy said:

D6 sounds pretty solid. Didn't know he had that in him.

I was surprised, too. But on the other hand during that time he sang many of his highest recorded notes.

[BAZanine]

I think the flip into E4 from the B5's clip is just that he pushes more air and flips back down into chest. It's a quick transition but the E4 was probably hardly even an intentional note so I think it's more than possible. The D6s definitely sound like D6s to me.

Either way unless Bowie's some master of overtones or something that "It's Gonna Be Me" note is a pretty easily countable C6 so let's let that one in if nothing else eh?

[Baronessa]

I don't even hear a flip, to be honest, but I mean I just thought I'd point out how weirdly seamless that supposed transition is.

[andrassy]

Agreed that the B5 is a bit suspicious. It definitely makes more sense if that was a B4. But I can't argue against the D6 - that stuff sounds rock solid.

[Seb]

Not to nitpick, but the C6 on "It's Gonna Be Me" happens at 4:10 but the timestamp link goes to 4:37

[halloweenjack95]

@the big Nope yes thats my bad. Sorry.

Here is another example. I hope it starts at the right timestamp this time. 22:42
m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=RvEwIgrfnro

Edit: I just saw that Holsety has already added them. Thanks  8-)

[queenfan11]

In addition to the E4s already listed, there's F4s in "Lazarus":

[halloweenjack95]

E5 at 09:07?

youtu.be/BqCIeFRcMaU

[glo]

Anyone else catch the E♭6(!) at 1:30:23 in that same concert audio from Anaheim 1974?

[halloweenjack95]

Oct 16, 2020 1:49:04 GMT glo said:

Anyone else catch the E♭6(!) at 1:30:23 in that same concert audio from Anaheim 1974?

I did. But this one is very difficult to rate. Even I have to admit that lol.
You are talking about the High note at the End of Rock'n Roll Suicide, right?
Its the same show where he has been hitting the D6's in "Somebody up there likes me".

[glo]

Yes!

[halloweenjack95]

Oct 17, 2020 13:44:58 GMT glo said:

Yes!

It could be overtones and I think I also have heard a saxophone in the background,too.
But I am not 100% sure. But one thing is sure. It definitely isn't one of his back-up singers.

[Gilad]

I checked out the Eb6 thinking it was gonna be some bullshit, but I actually think it's legit. I'm pretty sure that's Bowie going ape with his falsetto.

[halloweenjack95]

Oct 17, 2020 14:17:27 GMT Gilad said:

I checked out the Eb6 thinking it was gonna be some bullshit, but I actually think it's legit. I'm pretty sure that's Bowie going ape with his falsetto.

Is it really an E6 ????

I think its not easy to rate since the sound isnt that good.