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Post by clem on Dec 8, 2021 17:27:48 GMT
Patton fits into A Tier quite neatly. Very good down to Eb2, and whilst he has examples quite a bit below that which are impressive in their own right, I wouldn't hold his lowest stuff up as great examples of low singing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 20:55:25 GMT
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Post by fallenalien on Dec 14, 2021 23:42:29 GMT
Heino has to be A or even S tier. The music? Well....
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Post by 'S on Dec 15, 2021 14:48:44 GMT
Heino has to be A or even S tier. The music? Well.... C ompacT P ricE |
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Post by kaji on Dec 21, 2021 12:18:06 GMT
Not really crazy when you consider her tessitura and speaking voice. Her upper range is also limited to about D5 nowadays. Not really, she can still belt out E5s (could probably belt out a bit higher still if she wanted) and she has some higher notes in head voice too She did F5s recently. |
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Post by clem on Dec 21, 2021 12:42:11 GMT
Heino has to be A or even S tier. The music? Well.... Is this Till Lindemann's dad? |
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Post by fallenalien on Dec 21, 2021 13:18:15 GMT
Heino has to be A or even S tier. The music? Well.... Is this Till Lindemann's dad? They actually performed together a few years ago. |
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Post by clem on Dec 21, 2021 18:38:49 GMT
With all of these tier lists, I await the day clem brings out TRP trading cards or Top Trumps. Gofundme page for this coming soon haha |
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Post by soy on Dec 23, 2021 15:14:09 GMT
Let's get the obvious out of the way:
Glenn Miller, John Ames and Pasyukov are beyond S tier; Not only are they projecting crazy things like G1 in a choral setting, but they have to actively hold back on choirs as to not overpower them.
That being said, Bassi Profundi are just outright cheating, so I might aswell just include the Regular Basses:
Avi Kaplan: Easy S tier
Elliot Robinson: Easy S tier
Luke Taylor: Easy A/S tier
Bobby Bass: Easy S tier
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Post by kaji on Dec 24, 2021 6:24:06 GMT
Let's get the obvious out of the way: Glenn Miller, John Ames and Pasyukov are beyond S tier; Not only are they projecting crazy things like G1 in a choral setting, but they have to actively hold back on choirs as to not overpower them. That being said, Bassi Profundi are just outright cheating, so I might aswell just include the Regular Basses: Avi Kaplan: Easy S tier Elliot Robinson: Easy S tier Luke Taylor: Easy A/S tier Bobby Bass: Easy S tier I don't know about the last three but I would not include Avi in S tier for BASS singers. For male singers overall, yes though. Avi's lows are very normal for a (high) bass. His high range is very very good for a pop bass though. A friend of mine attended his workshop for bass singers in 2018 and he demonstrated his range there. He belted out a tenor high C (C5) and my friend said it sounded like it could be used in pop setting and wasn't too shrieky like some low voices' high notes past G4. In operatic world, Avi could probably sing both basso and baritono (or simply bass-baritono) if trained properly because his voice is right on the verge of baritone. Basso profundo also in the way you used it mostly talks simply about singers who sing very low (oktavism). Not necessarily voices that are super low. For one, Glenn's natural voice is that of a normal middle bass. He said prior in interviews that he is a 'basso-cantante' in terms of classical repertoire. Thurl Ravenscroft said so too about his own voice but that is far more audible. Thurl's tone changes to more of a baritonal timbre as soon as he goes into his higher range. Though undoubtedly a real bass. For great bass singers, you might wanna add Mikhail Zlatopolsky to that list. That man also has probably the lowest sitting voice I heard. |
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Post by blazejecar2 on Dec 24, 2021 7:46:28 GMT
Most of his low notes are buried in mixes or are brief and such, so he'd be like B or C tier but specifically in this project he goes all out and it's all like this. It's pretty much S tier, especially considering this is a baritone (he claims he's a lyric tenor though).
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Post by Døc on Oct 15, 2022 3:53:44 GMT
I'd actually put Martin Gore at a solid A or S Tier for his lows. His low range is shockingly rich and controlled for someone with such a low vocal weight. His voice is downright buttery in tracks like The Bottom Line. Also, the Clean demo is frighteningly rich and controlled down well through E2, where many baritones, including Dave Gahan in the studio version (which is whole tone higher), struggle for clarity. Although his voice thins out by the bottom of his range, he still has remarkable control over it.
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Post by Goober on Oct 18, 2022 18:35:12 GMT
Danny Elfman is A tier, maybe S tier.
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Post by clem on Dec 24, 2022 17:28:17 GMT
The last Megadeth album cements Dave Mustaine fairly well in B Tier. His lows are now pretty good down to D2, and used a bit more often than before.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 3:10:21 GMT
Ed Ames = S Tier
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Post by Bink on Jan 2, 2023 5:22:14 GMT
Out of my threads:
Arthur Lee - Solid C Tier, rarely makes use of his low range but he never really fails at any level, though there is nothing spectacular
Bernard Fanning - Low B Tier, makes use of his low range slightly more than his high range but he would not win huge awards for the lowest bolds he hits
Bill Withers - High B Tier, some very smooth lows down to about G2, he probably could make use of his lower range more if he wanted to but chose not to, and that's fine
Bryan MacLean - Extremely high E Tier, makes no use of his low range whatsoever, bottoms out at D3, but has a lovely tone to his lower notes
Caro Emerald - Low A Tier, has some amazing C♯3s in "The Bullet" and her range below E3 is very strong, maybe in the future she'll showcase her low range more
Carole King - Solid C Tier, rarely makes use of low range but has gotten down to D3 on a few occasions, nothing really wrong with her low range
Curtis Mayfield - Low C Tier, surprisingly utilizable low range but his tone is so naturally high that it makes his low range spread thinner
Damo Suzuki - Solid C Tier, extremely strange low range, somehow getting down to an A1, but other than certain occasions such as the F2s in "Mushroom" never makes much of his low range
Daniel Johns - High D Tier, manages to make use of his low range later in his career, but for the Silverchair/early solo career days, could not make much use of his low range below C3
Dave Davies - E Tier, cannot sing low at all, has to grumble a B♭2 and refused to sing below C3 for the better half of his career
David Coverdale - Solid A Tier, I really want to put him higher, because I know he can sing lower, but for what's showcased, he can pull off very weighty lows and bold his way down to F2
Doc Watson - High A Tier, overall pretty conservative with his low range, but what has been demonstrated proves he definitely has extreme control over his low voice. Who knows? maybe he'll have a huge range expansion once I finish it
Frank Ocean - Low S Tier, makes use of every part of his low range, the only reason he's not higher is because of his general drop-off at E2, which is totally fine
George Jones - While I know the thread is not complete yet, George has shown to get an amazingly solid voice all the way down to B1, so chances are he's gonna be a pretty solid S Tier
Greg Lake - High A Tier, utilizes pretty much every part of his low range getting his way down to C2 in chest with pretty alright tone
Huey Lewis - Low B Tier, definitely has the chops to sing very low, but never made huge use of it
Jani Lane - High C Tier, surprisingly adept low range for a glam metal singer
Nick Drake - Solid B Tier, didn't have huge prowess but could get the job done definitely, especially with songs like "Blossom"
Otis Redding - Solid D Tier, never really had the chance to demonstrate much low range with the sort of energy his music displays, however he didn't really demonstrate much and it's clear he would usually have to drop out at around D3
Ray Davies - A Tier, can make use of his low range all throughout his career, even getting down to C♯2
Tom Verlaine - D Tier, can't really sing low for shit but somehow made it down to C2
Townes Van Zandt - A Tier, While conservative in his low range (and range overall), he demonstrated a very nice tone to his lower songs
Van Morrison - B Tier, a true anomaly, but he has proven that he can make his own all the way down to E2 in some cases, however his tone in some lower notes usually drops out at around G2
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Post by Macca on Jan 2, 2023 10:42:36 GMT
He Has 3 C2's in his thread (“Better Days”, “Footprints in The Snow”, “Living Sin”)
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Post by Steingrim on Jan 2, 2023 10:54:20 GMT
He Has 3 C2's in his thread (“ Better Days”, “Footprints in The Snow”, “Living Sin”) That doesn't mean that they are chest notes. |
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Post by Bink on Jan 2, 2023 10:58:22 GMT
He Has 3 C2's in his thread (“ Better Days”, “Footprints in The Snow”, “Living Sin”) That doesn't mean that they are chest notes. Eckh, I never like throwing those terms around, especially for singers that most likely don’t use those techniques in mind, they just have Melodies that they keep, so I try to avoid that type of discussion, however, if you truly want to discuss it, the C2 I was talking about were the “Footprints in the snow” C2s (quiet but 100% chest) and the spoken “Better Days” C2s |
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Post by Steingrim on Jan 2, 2023 11:41:08 GMT
That doesn't mean that they are chest notes. Eckh, I never like throwing those terms around, especially for singers that most likely don’t use those techniques in mind, they just have Melodies that they keep, so I try to avoid that type of discussion, however, if you truly want to discuss it, the C2 I was talking about were the “Footprints in the snow” C2s (quiet but 100% chest) and the spoken “Better Days” C2s The studio version of "footprints in the snow" has some kind of a D2 at the end, it's in the key of D major. It's soft and it seems difficult to determine which register he is in. The more recent live version has nothing below a B2, maybe there's an A2 somewhere like the studio version has at one point. Do you have any examples of strong and clear chest notes below that G#2 ? Spoken notes are often strohbass, by the way. The bolded strohbass D2 is very good, though. |
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