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Post by Bink on Mar 16, 2023 6:55:18 GMT
{note quote} Pretty sure there's a D5 in "Not Now John": "Click click oh no oh NO" Also, G4s in the demo version of "Have a Cigar": Very nice. that D5 is for sure non melodic though. |
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Post by queenfan11 on Apr 11, 2023 1:11:52 GMT
No "The Trial"? It's probably his best example of taking on different characters with his voice.
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Post by richarddavies on May 5, 2023 0:40:28 GMT
What is his high note at the end of Hey You?
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Post by PerhapsXarb on May 13, 2023 2:50:09 GMT
C5 ..."Don't tell me ther e's no hope at all" This note is my go-to reference point whenever I think of or (attempt to) sing a C5
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Post by Bink on Jul 21, 2023 6:34:23 GMT
Actually hearing a (in my opinion) countable F♯1 at about 3:07, but holy shite I'm bolding those B1s ASAP
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Post by EddieCheivz on Jul 21, 2023 17:57:43 GMT
{note quote} Pretty sure there's a D5 in "Not Now John": "Click click oh no oh NO" Also, G4s in the demo version of "Have a Cigar": that D5 is for sure non melodic though. Strongly disagreed:(*  EDIT: Also not really sure that F♯1s are actually sufficiently good for counting. His domain on that area could not be entirely consistent for allow us counting his lows until that point. He hasn't previously demonstrated any consistent dominance on the first octave either. I'm still agreed with counting the A1 NJ shared and for bolding that B1 though. |
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Post by Osmosis on Jul 23, 2023 9:58:22 GMT
The D5 sounds melodic to me.
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Post by senatorsenpai on Jul 23, 2023 10:47:35 GMT
(6:29) Countable A1? Also, lots of B1s and a questionable F♯1 (1:14) This is a very interesting version! I do hear the A1 at 6:29 and a few more examples: 0:27 "more pay" 1:34 "do goody-good" 1:42 " first class" 6:09 " don't take" I'm not hearing a clear F♯1 pitch around 1:14, but at 0:51 "cavi ar" I think he may reach it? I'm unsure how much the bass guitar is filling it out there. Once the track releases in HQ it may be worth trying to isolate the vocal. |
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Post by Hennessy Macklemore III on Jul 24, 2023 1:52:19 GMT
I'm hearing lots of A1s that are quite strong, but none of the so-called F♯1s actually seem countable to me. There are lots of points where the melody SHOULD go down to that note, but from what I can tell he either ends up in pure whisper every time or hits something in the B1/A1 range instead. It's easy to hear F♯s there though because that's the expected note going by the melody of the original, and also because the bass is hitting that note around that point, so our ears can get tricked into hearing that blended in with some of his whispery notes. But yeah, I'm hearing 1:14 as bottoming at B1 and 3:07 as an A1.
Interesting arrangement for sure, but I slightly question the decision of singing the song an entire two octaves down, especially if he wasn't even able to properly hit the bottom notes that it called for in that octave. It's definitely a cool way of flexing his low range, but I would've preferred to hear him sing it in a slightly more comfortable range that didn't require him to talk-sing as much of it to make up for it being that low.
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Post by Homelander on Jul 24, 2023 4:34:09 GMT
If it is this difficult to determine if he hit the note, it is probably not a very good note in the first place and shouldn’t be counted. I think we as a forum need to raise our standards for counting notes.
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Post by IhateMana on Jul 24, 2023 4:59:27 GMT
honestly think it's about time we dropped our standards and just start counting things cause they're in a song that we like
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Post by Bink on Jul 24, 2023 5:45:38 GMT
what he said
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Post by senatorsenpai on Jul 24, 2023 7:23:28 GMT
Interesting arrangement for sure, but I slightly question the decision of singing the song an entire two octaves down, especially if he wasn't even able to properly hit the bottom notes that it called for in that octave. It's definitely a cool way of flexing his low range, but I would've preferred to hear him sing it in a slightly more comfortable range that didn't require him to talk-sing as much of it to make up for it being that low Ultimately it's more about the emotion or atmosphere you convey as a vocalist than just "hitting notes", I think it's more likely that he wanted to take the song to a more sinister place by singing it in that register, rather than setting out deliberately to hit some epic F♯1's. When remaking such a classic song 50 years after the fact it makes sense that he would want to do something totally different. |
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Post by Homelander on Jul 24, 2023 14:26:32 GMT
Interesting arrangement for sure, but I slightly question the decision of singing the song an entire two octaves down, especially if he wasn't even able to properly hit the bottom notes that it called for in that octave. It's definitely a cool way of flexing his low range, but I would've preferred to hear him sing it in a slightly more comfortable range that didn't require him to talk-sing as much of it to make up for it being that low Ultimately it's more about the emotion or atmosphere you convey as a vocalist than just "hitting notes", I think it's more likely that he wanted to take the song to a more sinister place by singing it in that register, rather than setting out deliberately to hit some epic F♯1's. When remaking such a classic song 50 years after the fact it makes sense that he would want to do something totally different. Ok, but vocal range is a measurement of the range of notes a singer can hit, so maybe it’s the notes themselves we should pay attention to rather than the “atmosphere” of the song. |
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Post by EddieCheivz on Jul 24, 2023 14:55:00 GMT
Ultimately it's more about the emotion or atmosphere you convey as a vocalist than just "hitting notes", I think it's more likely that he wanted to take the song to a more sinister place by singing it in that register, rather than setting out deliberately to hit some epic F♯1's. When remaking such a classic song 50 years after the fact it makes sense that he would want to do something totally different. Ok, but vocal range is a measurement of the range of notes a singer can hit, so maybe it’s the notes themselves we should pay attention to rather than the “atmosphere” of the song. Yeah, but judging by the context on sentorsenpai and Henny comments, seems more like they're certainly doing just a "criticism" of the remake of te song, rather than talking about the vocal topic. |
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Post by senatorsenpai on Jul 24, 2023 15:55:07 GMT
Ultimately it's more about the emotion or atmosphere you convey as a vocalist than just "hitting notes", I think it's more likely that he wanted to take the song to a more sinister place by singing it in that register, rather than setting out deliberately to hit some epic F♯1's. When remaking such a classic song 50 years after the fact it makes sense that he would want to do something totally different. Ok, but vocal range is a measurement of the range of notes a singer can hit, so maybe it’s the notes themselves we should pay attention to rather than the “atmosphere” of the song. If you scroll up just a little bit then you'll see we already did that, this is a separate discussion.  |
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Post by Hennessy Macklemore III on Jul 24, 2023 17:46:41 GMT
Interesting arrangement for sure, but I slightly question the decision of singing the song an entire two octaves down, especially if he wasn't even able to properly hit the bottom notes that it called for in that octave. It's definitely a cool way of flexing his low range, but I would've preferred to hear him sing it in a slightly more comfortable range that didn't require him to talk-sing as much of it to make up for it being that low Ultimately it's more about the emotion or atmosphere you convey as a vocalist than just "hitting notes", I think it's more likely that he wanted to take the song to a more sinister place by singing it in that register, rather than setting out deliberately to hit some epic F♯1's. When remaking such a classic song 50 years after the fact it makes sense that he would want to do something totally different. Yeah I like the atmosphere of the track, but I think he could've captured that while still singing it in a key that's comfortable enough for him to hit all the notes without having to talk his way through so much of it. Like if he had played the song in E or something instead, the bottom notes would've been B1 and A1, and he clearly would've been able to make it down to that still actually singing the right notes. There's no need for "epic F♯1s" in it sure; I just would've preferred if more of the original vocal melodies remained intact instead of so much of it being talk-sung. Also I just realized the bottom note on the chorus is actually supposed to be E1, but no way did he make it down to that successfully lol |
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Post by EddieCheivz on Jul 24, 2023 18:07:27 GMT
Ultimately it's more about the emotion or atmosphere you convey as a vocalist than just "hitting notes", I think it's more likely that he wanted to take the song to a more sinister place by singing it in that register, rather than setting out deliberately to hit some epic F♯1's. When remaking such a classic song 50 years after the fact it makes sense that he would want to do something totally different. Like if he had played the song in E or something instead maybe he didn't know how to change the key of the song |
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Post by Hennessy Macklemore III on Jul 24, 2023 19:11:06 GMT
Actually hearing a (in my opinion) countable F♯1 at about 3:07 Listening this back again I'm not hearing any F♯1 there, listening from 3:03-3:25 just hearing lot of B1s to be honest Agreed, though I do hear an A1 at 3:09 on "THE heavyweight", which I'm guessing is what Bink was calling an F♯1. Also at the very least, whatever we are pitching those notes as, they are definitely not sung lol Like if he had played the song in E or something instead maybe he didn't know how to change the key of the song Not sure how seriously this post was intended, but I highly doubt that a musician who was composed and performed some of the music as complex and intricate as Waters has over the span of a 56 year career would still have trouble with something as basic as transposing a song to a different key. |
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Pretty sure there's a D5 in "Not Now John":
