Roger Waters (8,894 views)

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George Roger Waters (6 September 1943 - )
Vocal Range: A1 - A5
Associated Acts: Pink Floyd (1965 - 1985, 2005)
Voice Type: Pretentious

Significant High Notes:
A5 ("Dogs")
G5 ("Young Lust")
F♯5 ("The Trial")
E5 ("For the First Time Today, Pt. 2", "Go Fishing", "Pigs (Three Different Ones)", "Sheep")
D5 ("Comfortably Numb", "The Hero's Return", "Go Fishing", "Not Now John", "Too Much Rope", "Who's Sorry Now/It's Never Too Late" Demo)
C♯5 ("Don't Leave Me Now", "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert", "What God Wants" Part II)
C5 ("Another Brick In The Wall" Parts I, II, "Arabs with Knives and West German Skies", "Backs To The Wall" Demo, "Bring The Boys Back Home", "Deja Vu", "Dogs", "Don't Leave Me Now", "Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin'", "Every Stranger's Eyes", "The Final Cut", "Follow The Worms" Demo, "For the First Time Today, Pt. 2", "Go Fishing", "The Hero's Return", "Hey You", "Me or Him", "Not Now John", "One of My Turns", "The Post War Dream", "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, Pt. 10", "Running Shoes", "Southampton Dock", "Too Much Rope")
B4 ("Bring The Boys Back Home", "The Fletcher Memorial Home", "The Gunner's Dream", "Home", "In The Flesh?", "Lost Boys Calling" Demo Version, "Pigs (Three Different Ones)", "Not Now John", "Sexual Revolution", "Run Like Hell", "Sheep", "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk", "To Kill The Child", "Towers of Faith", "The Trial", "Two Suns In The Sunset", "Who Needs Information", "Young Lust")
B♭4 ("The Final Cut", "Lost Boys Calling", "One of My Turns", "Perfect Sense" Part II, "The Remains of Our Love", "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", "What God Wants" Part II)
A4 ("Amused to Death", "Another Brick In The Wall" Parts I, II, III, "Dogs", "Don't Leave Me Now", "Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin'", "The Final Cut", "The Happiest Days of Our Lives", "In The Flesh", "Is This The Life We Really Want?", "Nobody Home", "One of My Turns", "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, Pt. 10", "Point Me at The Sky", "The Post War Dream", "Running Shoes", "Sheep", "Too Much Rope", "Towers of Faith", "What God Wants" Part I, III, "What Shall We Do Now?", "When The Tigers Broke Free", "Who Needs Information", "Young Lust", "Your Possible Pasts")
G♯4 ("Bird in a Gale", "Home", "In The Flesh", "In The Flesh?", "Is This the Life We Really Want?", "The Last Refugee", "Lost Boys Calling", "Perfect Sense" Part II, "To Kill The Child")
G4 ("Amused to Death", "Arabs with Knives and West German Skies", "Bird in a Gale", "Breathe (In The Air)" live In The Flesh, "Broken Bones", "Crystal Clear Brooks" live Newport Folk Festival 2015, "Deja Vu", "Dogs", "Each Small Candle", "The Fletcher Memorial Home", "For the First Time Today, Pt. 1", "For the First Time Today, Pt. 2", "Go Fishing", "The Gunner's Dream", "Have a Cigar" demo version, "Hey You", "It's a Miracle", "Julia Dream", "Late Home Tonight" Part I, "Leaving Beirut", "Mother", "Not Now John", "Part of Me Died", "Pigs (Three Different Ones)", "Point Me at The Sky", "Run Like Hell", "Sexual Revolution", "Sheep", "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", "Smell The Roses", "Stop", "Sunset Strip", "The Thin Ice", "The Trial", "Welcome to The Machine" various live versions, "What God Wants" Part I, III, "When The Tigers Broke Free", "Wish You Were Here" live 8 Reunion, "Your Possible Pasts")
F♯4 ("Amused to Death", "Bird in a Gale", "The Bravery of Being Out of Range", "Corporal Clegg", "Four Minutes", "Give Birth to a Smile", "The Hero's Return", "Hey You", "In The Flesh", "In The Flesh?", "It's a Miracle", "Late Home Tonight" Part I, "Money" various live versions, "The Most Beautiful Girl", "Point Me at The Sky", "Sunset Strip", "Time" various live versions, "Two Suns In The Sunset", "Waiting for the Worms", "Who Needs Information")
F4 ("Another Brick In The Wall" Parts I, II, III, "Arabs with Knives and West German Skies", "Dogs", "The Final Cut", "For the First Time Today, Pt. 1", "The Last Refugee", "Picture That", "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, Pt. 10", "Too Much Rope", "What God Wants" Part II, III, "Wish You Were Here" live Us and Them 2020)
E4 ("Arabs with Knives and West German Skies", "Brain Damage", "The Bravery of Being Out of Range", "Breathe (In The Air)" various live versions, "Broken Bones", "Deja Vu", "Every Stranger's Eyes", "Flaming", "The Fletcher Memorial Home", "For the First Time Today, Pt. 2", "Four Minutes", "Free Four", "The Happiest Days of Our Lives", "Hey You", "Home", "Imagine" live 2013, "It Would Be So Nice", "Mother", "Part of Me Died", "Pigs (Three Different Ones)", "The Powers That Be", "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, Pt. 10", "Radio Waves", "Run Like Hell", "Sexual Revolution", "Sheep", "The Show Must Go On", "Smell The Roses", "Southampton Dock", "Stop", "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk", "The Thin Ice", "Vera", "Waiting for the Worms", "What God Wants" Part I, "When The Tigers Broke Free", "Wish You Were Here" various live versions, "Your Possible Pasts")

Significant Low Notes:
D3 ("Amused to Death", "Another Brick In The Wall" Parts I, II, "Brain Damage", "The Bravery of Being Out of Range", "Chain of Life", "Corporal Clegg", "Dogs", "For the First Time Today, Pt. 1", "Free Four", "Every Stranger's Eyes", "For the First Time Today, Pt. 2", "Four Minutes", "Gira, Gira Girasol", "Give Birth to a Smile", "Go Fishing", "Goodbye Cruel World", "The Gunner's Dream", "Grantchester Meadows", "Hey You", "If", "It's a Miracle", "Late Home Tonight" Part II, "Me or Him", "Oceans Apart", "One of The Few", "Part of Me Died", "Picture That", "Pigs (Three Different Ones)", "The Remains of Our Love", "San Tropez", "Sea Shell and Stone", "Set The Controls For The Heart of The Sun", "The Show Must Go On", "Sunset Strip", "Two Suns In The Sunset", "Wait For Her", "Waiting for the Worms", "What God Wants" Part I, II, "Who Needs Information", "Wish You Were Here" various live versions, "Your Possible Pasts")
C♯3 ("Breathe" Music From The Body, "Chain of Life", "Home", "The Last Refugee", "Lost Boys Calling", "Perfect Sense" Part I, "Sea Shell and Stone", "To Kill The Child")
C3 ("Another Brick In The Wall" Parts I, II, "Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad", "Broken Bones", "Deja Vu", "Each Small Candle", "Hello In There", "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", "The Moment of Clarity", "The Most Beautiful Girl", "Nobody Home", "Oceans Apart", "Paranoid Eyes", "The Post War Dream", "Running Shoes", "The Thin Ice", "The Tide is Turning (After Live Aid)", "What God Wants" Part III, "When The Tigers Broke Free")
B2 ("The Bravery of Being Out of Range", "Comfortably Numb", "El derecho de vivir en paz", "Flickering Flame", "Grantchester Meadows", "The Gunner's Dream", "It's a Miracle", "The Last Refugee", "Late Home Tonight" Part I, II, "The Powers That Be", "Sunset Strip", "Who Needs Information")
B♭2 ("Comfortably Numb" 2022 version, "Crystal Clear Brooks" live Newport Folk Festival 2015, "Each Small Candle", "Lost Boys Calling", "The Most Beautiful Girl", "Three Wishes", "The Tide is Turning (After Live Aid)")
A2 ("Another Brick In The Wall" Parts I, II, "Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad", "Brain Damage", "Breathe" Music From The Body, "Comfortably Numb", "The Final Cut", "Give Birth to a Smile", "Grantchester Meadows", "The Happiest Days of Our Lives", "Is There Anybody Out There?", "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", "Me or Him", "Not Now John", "Pigs on The Wing 2", "The Post War Dream", "The Powers That Be", "Sea Shell and Stone", "Sheep", "Smell The Roses", "Too Much Rope", "Two Suns in the Sunset" 2020 Version, "Waiting for the Worms", "Wish You Were Here" live with Eric Clapton)
G♯2 ("Home", "If", "The Last Refugee", "To Kill The Child")
G2 ("Amused to Death", "Arabs with Knives and We'st German Skies", "Deja Vu", "Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin'", "Each Small Candle", "Every Stranger's Eyes", "The Fletcher Memorial Home", "Free Four", "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert", "Hello In There", "Is There Anybody Out There?", "The Moment of Clarity", "Mother", "Nobody Home", "Not Now John", "Oceans Apart", "One of My Turns", "One of The Few", "Paranoid Eyes", "Part of Me Died", "Perfect Sense" Part II, "Pigs on The Wing 1", "Pigs on The Wing 2", "The Remains of Our Love", "Running Shoes", "Smell The Roses", "Southampton Dock", "Three Wishes", "The Tide is Turning (After Live Aid)", "Two Suns In The Sunset", "Vera" 2020 Version, "Wait For Her", "Waiting for the Worms", "Watching TV", "When The Tigers Broke Free", "Wish You Were Here" live Tsunami Aid: A Concert of Hope 2004, "Your Possible Pasts")
F♯2 ("Comfortably Numb", "Go Fishing", "The Gunner's Dream" 2021 Version, "The Happiest Days of Our Lives", "It's a Miracle", "The Last Refugee", "Late Home Tonight" Part I, "Perfect Sense" Part I, "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, Pt. 10", "Two Suns in The Sunset")
F2 ("Arabs with Knives and West German Skies", "The Ballad of Bill Hubbard", "Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin'", "Is This The Life We Really Want?", "One of My Turns", "Perfect Sense" Part I, II, "Two Suns in the Sunset" 2020 Version, "When The Tigers Broke Free")
E2 ("Apparently They Were Travelling Abroad", "Broken Bones", "Comfortably Numb" 2022 version, "Every Stranger's Eyes", "Flickering Flame", "For the First Time Today, Pt. 2", "The Gunner's Dream" 2021 Version, "The Happiest Days of Our Lives", "Hello In There", "The Hero's Return", "Me or Him", "The Moment of Clarity", "Mother" 2020 version, "Nobody Home", "Outside The Wall", "Paranoid Eyes", "Part of Me Died", "The Powers That Be", "Running Shoes", "Set The Controls For The Heart of The Sun", "Smell The Roses", "Too Much Rope", "Vera" 2020 Version)
E♭2 ("Three Wishes", "Two Suns In The Sunset" 2020 version)
D2 ("Amused to Death", "Broken Bones", "Gira, Gira Girasol", "The Hero's Return", "It's a Miracle", "Picture That", "Wait For Her")
C♯2 ("Flickering Flame", "Is This The Life We Really Want?", "Perfect Sense" Part I)
C2 ("Arnold Layne" Roger Waters & Nick Mason - The Simple Facts, "Deja Vu", "Leaving Beirut", "The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, Pt. 10", "Wait For Her", "Two Suns In The Sunset" 2020 version)
B1 ("Flickering Flame", "Money" 2020 version, "When We Were Young")
A1 ("Money" 2020 version)
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Blue marks falsetto or whistle notes.
Underlines mark notes that are obscured in the song mix.
Italics mark non-melodic notes.
Boldface marks notes that are considered to be particularly notable examples of this person's vocal capabilities.

Best Vocal Performances:
1. Two Suns In The Sunset
2. Mother
3. Sheep
4. Every Stranger's Eyes
5. Running Shoes
6. The Final Cut
7. Too Much Rope
8. Is This The Life We Really Want?
9. Pigs (Three Different Ones)
10. Go Fishing

Huge thanks to Zedd Squared for giving me this thread

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{Album Ranges}
Pink Floyd:
Piper at The Gates of Dawn (1968): ? - B4
A Saucerful of Secrets (1968): E2 - F♯4
Ummagumma (1969): A2 - B3
Atom Heart Mother (1970): G♯2 - ?
Meddle (1971): D3 - D4
Obscured By Clouds (1972): G2 - E4
The Dark Side of The Moon (1973): A2 - E4
Wish You Were Here (1975): F♯3 - B♭4
Animals (1977): G2 - A5
The Wall (1979): E2 - G5
The Final Cut (1983): D2 - D5

Roger Waters:
Music From The Body (1970): A2 - F♯4
The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking (1984): C2 - E5
Radio K.A.O.S. (1987): E2 - C5
Amused to Death (1992): C♯2 - D5
Is This The Life We Really Want? (2017): C2 - C5

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{Questionable Notes}
C♯7 ("Radio Waves" [5])
B6 ("Run Like Hell" live Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall live 80-81[5])
A6 ("Candy and a Currant Bun" [5], "Careful with that Axe Eugene" live Brighton Dome 1972 [5], "Come in Number 51, Your Time Is Up" [5])
G♯6 ("Another Brick In The Wall (Part 2)" [5])
G6 ("Radio Waves" [5])
F♯6 ("Two Suns in The Sunset" [5])
B4 ("When The Tigers Broke Free" [5] undershot C5)
A4 ("Three Wishes" [2] sounds like Roger but it is also a lot more stable than most of his notes in this range)

E2 ("Corporal Clegg" [2], "Dunroamin, Duncarin, Dunlivin'" [1])
A1 ("Gira, Gira Girasol" [1])
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[1] marks yelps and short trills in high range or anacrusis and short dips in low range.
[2] marks notes of questionable identity that cannot be confirmed to be the singer in question.
[3] marks non-melodic notes that don't have a significant enough pitch to warrant inclusion.
[4] marks notes that possess uncertain pitch or have been pitch-shifted.
[5] marks notes that do not fit the previous criteria but are not of a substantial enough quality to warrant counting towards the singer's range.

[Macca]

Where's the C5 in Another Brick in the wall Part 1 and 2?

[EddieCheivz]

Nice.

Remember in the old thread there was a C2 listed singing money bassline, does anyone have any knownledge about it? I always wanted to hear it ):


P.S: I have to say the E4 from "Let There Be More Light" is actually Gilmour.

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Feb 26, 2023 18:55:40 GMT Macca said:

Where's the C5 in Another Brick in the wall Part 1 and 2?

Part 1


Part 2

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Feb 26, 2023 23:37:24 GMT EddieCheivz said:

Nice.

Remember in the old thread there was a C2 listed singing money bassline, does anyone have any knownledge about it? I always wanted to hear it ):


P.S: I have to say the E4 from "Let There Be More Light" is actually Gilmour.

I tried finding it on YouTube, but I couldn't find it anywhere :(

(also I think you're right about that E4 it's now removed)

[senatorsenpai]

Excellent job! I'm not familiar with The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking, but colour me surprised and impressed by some of the bolded vocals from it.

[motorist]

Thanks for making this.

I have a lot of notes I'm not sure about:
- Where's the E4 from "It Would Be So Nice"? Only Gilmour is credited for backing vocals and honestly I can't even hear anything that sounds like anyone but Wright the entire way through.
- Where's the F#4 from Flaming? I couldn't hear anything above E4 and that all sounded like Syd.
- Where's the E4 from "The Gnome"? Here? That sounds like Wright to me.
- Where's the black F#4 from Corporal Clegg? Is the E2 from this section? That sounds like Nick Mason to me.

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Feb 28, 2023 2:32:49 GMT motorist said:

Thanks for making this.

I have a lot of notes I'm not sure about:
- Where's the E4 from "It Would Be So Nice"? Only Gilmour is credited for backing vocals and honestly I can't even hear anything that sounds like anyone but Wright the entire way through.
- Where's the F#4 from Flaming? I couldn't hear anything above E4 and that all sounded like Syd.
- Where's the E4 from "The Gnome"? Here? That sounds like Wright to me.
- Where's the black F#4 from Corporal Clegg? Is the E2 from this section? That sounds like Nick Mason to me.

For "It Would Be So Nice" Roger was actually credited on vocals at least for rateyourmusic.com, and they sounded quite a bit like Roger (though Gilmour's tone back in the late 60s was a bit ambiguous compared to Roger, so I'll check it over again)
There is no F♯4 listed for "Flaming" idk what you're on about
The E4 from "The Gnome" doesn't really sound breathy enough to be Wright to me, especially since the vocals on "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk" sound quite similar
The F♯4 is here, absolutely buried in the mix.
and the E2 uhh, you're probably right about that one though I'm not too sure who it is so I'm putting it in questionable notes.

[motorist]

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Feb 28, 2023 2:48:04 GMT Bink said:

Feb 28, 2023 2:32:49 GMT motorist said:

Thanks for making this.

I have a lot of notes I'm not sure about:
- Where's the E4 from "It Would Be So Nice"? Only Gilmour is credited for backing vocals and honestly I can't even hear anything that sounds like anyone but Wright the entire way through.
- Where's the F#4 from Flaming? I couldn't hear anything above E4 and that all sounded like Syd.
- Where's the E4 from "The Gnome"? Here? That sounds like Wright to me.
- Where's the black F#4 from Corporal Clegg? Is the E2 from this section? That sounds like Nick Mason to me.

For "It Would Be So Nice" Roger was actually credited on vocals at least for rateyourmusic.com, and they sounded quite a bit like Roger (though Gilmour's tone back in the late 60s was a bit ambiguous compared to Roger, so I'll check it over again)
There is no F♯4 listed for "Flaming" idk what you're on about
The E4 from "The Gnome" doesn't really sound breathy enough to be Wright to me, especially since the vocals on "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk" sound quite similar
The F♯4 is here, absolutely buried in the mix.
and the E2 uhh, you're probably right about that one though I'm not too sure who it is so I'm putting it in questionable notes.

Whoops, no Flaming F#4, I meant the E4, is it this? Still sounds like Syd singing to me.

Can't really see that E4 in "The Gnome" not being Wright considering the vocal line continues right after with what I hear as Richard Wright's typical singing accent.

Could you timestamp what you hear as Roger in "It Would Be So Nice"? Right at the beginning? That's not completely unbelievable as Roger, but I just don't think that sounds different from Richard's other vocals in the song. The other E4 I hear blends in so well I can't see that being Roger.

Can't hear the F#4 in Corporal Clegg but that probably would just take more listens.

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Feb 28, 2023 3:18:01 GMT motorist said:

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Feb 28, 2023 2:48:04 GMT Bink said:

For "It Would Be So Nice" Roger was actually credited on vocals at least for rateyourmusic.com, and they sounded quite a bit like Roger (though Gilmour's tone back in the late 60s was a bit ambiguous compared to Roger, so I'll check it over again)
There is no F♯4 listed for "Flaming" idk what you're on about
The E4 from "The Gnome" doesn't really sound breathy enough to be Wright to me, especially since the vocals on "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk" sound quite similar
The F♯4 is here, absolutely buried in the mix.
and the E2 uhh, you're probably right about that one though I'm not too sure who it is so I'm putting it in questionable notes.

Whoops, no Flaming F#4, I meant the E4, is it this? Still sounds like Syd singing to me.

Can't really see that E4 in "The Gnome" not being Wright considering the vocal line continues right after with what I hear as Richard Wright's typical singing accent.

Could you timestamp what you hear as Roger in "It Would Be So Nice"? Right at the beginning? That's not completely unbelievable as Roger, but I just don't think that sounds different from Richard's other vocals in the song. The other E4 I hear blends in so well I can't see that being Roger.

Can't hear the F#4 in Corporal Clegg but that probably would just take more listens.

Flaming E4 "I Won't touch"
Also for "The Gnome" E4, Roger's only singing the "Hoo-ray" part
And yeah you're correct about the rest of them

[motorist]

Feb 28, 2023 3:32:09 GMT Bink said:

Flaming E4 "I Won't touch"
Also for "The Gnome" E4, Roger's only singing the "Hoo-ray" part

That E4 in "The Gnome" "Flaming" is the same pitched harmony as the one I linked, can't really hear either of them as anyone other than Syd
I still hear Richard Wright in the Flaming "The Gnome" E4 too, seems odd for it to just switch to Roger Waters for one second then change back, and I still hear it as much more like Richard Wright's accent... but at this point I'm just repeating the same things and don't really have much to add to that.
Maybe EddieCheivz has something to add considering he made threads for two of these singers, or maybe he disagrees with me...

[EddieCheivz]

Ok I'm going to put my two cents here:

"The Gnome": Lead vocals: Syd, Harmonies: Wright, Whispering voice: Roger (in other words, actually he's not touching any pitch in that song, his vocal lines just are him whispering the lyrics on some verses, same thing occours in "Let There Be More Light")


"Flaming" actually on this one I always heard just Syd doing both vocal lines, the lead one and the other that starts at 0:57 on "Light", not getting Wright or Waters voice there!


Bink is this the F♯5 for "The Trial"? I think sounds very much like a sung note or not?


Also cool to see now Waters, Gilmour and Barrett all them has A5 as highest note lol

[motorist]

Lol, I got the songs mixed up only in my most recent post, whatever I was saying about each song actually applied to the other song.. I do think the "Flaming" E4 is Syd and "The Gnome" E4 is Wright. The whispering would make sense as Roger as well.

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[Henny Macc]

Totally missed this updated version of the thread getting posted! Good work, my only criticism offhand is that I think there are other B4s listed that are far more bold-worthy than the "Take Up Thy Stethoscope" one. Those rapid-fire lines at that pitch during his first vocal section in the song are pretty damn intense, for instance.

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Feb 28, 2023 16:20:39 GMT EddieCheivz said:

Ok I'm going to put my two cents here:

"The Gnome": Lead vocals: Syd, Harmonies: Wright, Whispering voice: Roger (in other words, actually he's not touching any pitch in that song, his vocal lines just are him whispering the lyrics on some verses, same thing occours in "Let There Be More Light")


"Flaming" actually on this one I always heard just Syd doing both vocal lines, the lead one and the other that starts at 0:57 on "Light", not getting Wright or Waters voice there!


Bink is this the F♯5 for "The Trial"? I think sounds very much like a sung note or not?


Also cool to see now Waters, Gilmour and Barrett all them has A5 as highest note lol

Okay, so admittedly I did not know that about "The Gnome" so they are now gone.

However, I still think the "Flaming" E4s are still Roger, not only because in my opinion they still sound like Roger, but also because of EMI's restrictions in 1968, where they only had a 4-track tape machine. These restrictions made songs like "Atom Heart Mother" have to be recorded in one take for Waters and Mason. And as you may hear, there is a lot of stuff going on in "Flaming" which would lead me to believe that those vocals are sung by Roger.

and uhh the F♯5 does not sound melodic to me in the slightest but if more people agree with it being melodic then I'll make it that.

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Feb 28, 2023 20:44:15 GMT motorist said:

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It is already listed as the D5 in the thread.

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Feb 28, 2023 21:21:39 GMT Henny Macc said:

Totally missed this updated version of the thread getting posted! Good work, my only criticism offhand is that I think there are other B4s listed that are far more bold-worthy than the "Take Up Thy Stethoscope" one. Those rapid-fire lines at that pitch during his first vocal section in the song are pretty damn intense, for instance.

I might consider it later, but I feel it also shows off some good vocals of Roger in his early days, which is why I kept it there.

[motorist]

Mar 1, 2023 7:42:04 GMT Bink said:

It is already listed as the D5 in the thread.

The D5 is the backing note though, right? That's not the pitch of the scream, which sounds like a B4 to me (it was mentioned as A4 before but I don't think that's right), and considering the difference in tone from backing note I think it's worth listing as well.

I don't know about that explanation for Flaming, the "Starlit skyyyy" backing vocals at 1:15 are 100% Syd Barrett.

[NJ]

I think I found a countable A1 here (there's also sung D3s in the background and a D2 here)

[rob]

Mar 4, 2023 16:30:40 GMT NJ said:

I think I found a countable A1 here (there's also sung D3s in the background and a D2 here)

The A1 is basically a spoken note, no?

[EddieCheivz]

Mar 1, 2023 7:41:27 GMT Bink said:

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Feb 28, 2023 16:20:39 GMT EddieCheivz said:

However, I still think the "Flaming" E4s are still Roger, not only because in my opinion they still sound like Roger, but also because of EMI's restrictions in 1968, where they only had a 4-track tape machine. These restrictions made songs like "Atom Heart Mother" have to be recorded in one take for Waters and Mason. And as you may hear, there is a lot of stuff going on in "Flaming" which would lead me to believe that those vocals are sung by Roger.

Ok actually dont really think that thing applied for vocal tracks on "ATHM" or any other album, that's very more possible just for the instruments recorded each one and nothing more.
"Atom Heart Mother" is a very different one beacause the amount of stuff, orchestra accompaniments, whole recording process was a defiant project for the innovative of the song itself.
At the first time, the idea was to make the song without the orchestra playing behind them, inclusion of the orchestra through whole 23 minutes of the song was an idea introduced later and virtually on last minute that complicated a bit the recording sessions for the infrastructure and resources they had on that years. I really think that kind of circunstances did not affected at all recording process for vocal tracks tho.
Also keeping in mind loooot of times, lot of artists recorded their tracks with different takes (I'm not talking about take 1, take 2 and that) I mean "ones takes are for can record the vocals" and "other ones for record the instruments" not recording both tracks with instruments they played at same time they're singing as if it were a concert or public performance.



If the "A1" is on the syllable "Victor" I'm not 100% hearing A1 there, I'm between B1 and A1, more probably a B1. I think I hearing bottom at A1 maybe but seems to be more like a very  inconsistent and short pitch for amerite counting it as A1. Not sure it would be really countable though but sounds more clean around B1 to me.



Also Bink  just wanted to continue with this cause I'm seeing as well a E4 for "See Emily Play", and for "Flaming" and "The Gnome" still...

There are no Waters or Wright vocals here (even when who uploaded the video put Wright as vocalist as well) where is supposed to be Waters? Just there are two vocal lines there, the lead one and the other what starts at 0:42 on "LIGHT" 100% Syd.


Once again, for "The Gnome" vocals Roger just whisper few vocal verses (you can hear it from 1:12- 1:30) the other background voice (at 0:46 or 1:41 for example) is Wright.

"See Emily Play" also is Wright doing harmonies (E4s and G4s) for example there's a pretty clear G4 close to the end on the last seconds of the song, very clearly as Wright I' say.

Honestly I would say even accepting (and proving) Bink point about limited recordings tracks, none of previous vocal lines sound as Waters actually for counting them as him, but I'd like to see other points of view from other PF fans :P

[queenfan11]

For "The Gunner's Dream" i'd consider bolding the B4 at 2:12 over the one currently:

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Mar 7, 2023 18:25:30 GMT EddieCheivz said:

Mar 1, 2023 7:41:27 GMT Bink said:

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However, I still think the "Flaming" E4s are still Roger, not only because in my opinion they still sound like Roger, but also because of EMI's restrictions in 1968, where they only had a 4-track tape machine. These restrictions made songs like "Atom Heart Mother" have to be recorded in one take for Waters and Mason. And as you may hear, there is a lot of stuff going on in "Flaming" which would lead me to believe that those vocals are sung by Roger.

Ok actually dont really think that thing applied for vocal tracks on "ATHM" or any other album, that's very more possible just for the instruments recorded each one and nothing more.
"Atom Heart Mother" is a very different one beacause the amount of stuff, orchestra accompaniments, whole recording process was a defiant project for the innovative of the song itself.
At the first time, the idea was to make the song without the orchestra playing behind them, inclusion of the orchestra through whole 23 minutes of the song was an idea introduced later and virtually on last minute that complicated a bit the recording sessions for the infrastructure and resources they had on that years. I really think that kind of circunstances did not affected at all recording process for vocal tracks tho.
Also keeping in mind loooot of times, lot of artists recorded their tracks with different takes (I'm not talking about take 1, take 2 and that) I mean "ones takes are for can record the vocals" and "other ones for record the instruments" not recording both tracks with instruments they played at same time they're singing as if it were a concert or public performance.



If the "A1" is on the syllable "Victor" I'm not 100% hearing A1 there, I'm between B1 and A1, more probably a B1. I think I hearing bottom at A1 maybe but seems to be more like a very  inconsistent and short pitch for amerite counting it as A1. Not sure it would be really countable though but sounds more clean around B1 to me.



Also Bink  just wanted to continue with this cause I'm seeing as well a E4 for "See Emily Play", and for "Flaming" and "The Gnome" still...

There are no Waters or Wright vocals here (even when who uploaded the video put Wright as vocalist as well) where is supposed to be Waters? Just there are two vocal lines there, the lead one and the other what starts at 0:42 on "LIGHT" 100% Syd.


Once again, for "The Gnome" vocals Roger just whisper few vocal verses (you can hear it from 1:12- 1:30) the other background voice (at 0:46 or 1:41 for example) is Wright.

"See Emily Play" also is Wright doing harmonies (E4s and G4s) for example there's a pretty clear G4 close to the end on the last seconds of the song, very clearly as Wright I' say.

Honestly I would say even accepting (and proving) Bink point about limited recordings tracks, none of previous vocal lines sound as Waters actually for counting them as him, but I'd like to see other points of view from other PF fans :P

Alright so yeah those "See Emily Play" and "The Gnome" notes definitely aren't Roger, but uhh idk what to tell you man, those "Flaming" E4s are still definitely him to me. Also that A1 is questionable at best to me.

[senatorsenpai]

I do agree that it's an A1 in "Gira, Gira Girasol" but I also agree that the spoiler is the right place for it.

[queenfan11]

Pretty sure there's a D5 in "Not Now John":

"Click click oh no oh NO"

Also, G4s in the demo version of "Have a Cigar":