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Post by Dark Star on Sept 26, 2019 20:40:57 GMT
 This thread is meant to serve as an all purpose thread for The Beatles, since they are not only the most influential rock band of the 20th century, but have been tantamount among the most beloved and discussed artists in the previous iterations of this site. This thread can be used to discuss favorite songs, album rankings, what their music means to you, the merits of their impact, etc. We can also discuss the solo careers of individual members, unless the moderators feel those should be their own separate threads. I first heard The Beatles when I was four years old and my father played Hard Day's Night and Abbey Road for the first time. I pretty much loved them right off the bat, with "Can't Buy Me Love," "Here Comes the Sun," and "Octopus's Garden" being my initial favorites. Their songs have stood the test of time for me (and I'm sure everyone) not only because of the quality of the songs themselves, but how they resonate on a more visceral, emotional and imaginative level. The uplifting quality of songs such as "Let It Be," "Hey Jude," "All You Need is Love," and numerous other songs have gotten me through some extremely tough times in my life. Whether it be their early power pop sound or their experimental excursions later on, you'd be hard pressed to find a truly dull or ineffective moment in their catalog. At one point, George, John, and Paul have been my 'favorite' Beatle (sorry, Ringo), but I can't say I really have one now because all four are equally indispensable to what makes them such a unique and special group. |
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Post by Vels on Sept 30, 2019 6:48:43 GMT
Great bando, I remember the very first song of theirs that I came across was "Let It Be", and it wasn't like anything I'd heard before, same blast like with case of "Hound Dog" by Elvis. As with any other one, I quickly grew fond of them and it was years ago, no use saying I still like them just as much. I could never get to like George, he always seemed a bit waspish to me, with his bile rotting jokes at times but it changed when he was on his own. I always liked Paul more as a person but adored John as a singer, he was better delivery-wise, with his uncovered emotion but Paul was better technically-wise with his ever pleasing tone. With time my ears found the shelter in their early recordings, past-Epstein stage still sound way too polished and studio-dependant to me, so to speak, I'm missing the soul and joy of the process. So I might as well share my list of songs I like the most from them.
1. There's A Place
2. Please Please Me
3. Anna (Go To Him)
4. Baby It's You (Live At The BBC)
5. Not A Second Time
6. A Taste Of Honey
7. Hold Me Tight
8. I Want To Hold Your Hand
9. She's Leaving Home
10. Love Me Do
It's very hard to pack them in a list in order, easier to say which ones you don't like. But there's a few I strongly dislike, such as "Here Comes The Sun", "I Saw Her Standing There" and "In My Life". Also, songs like "There's A Place" and "Love Me Do" inspired me to order harmonica and put it in use for my records, not half as good as John but I'm trying.
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Post by Rodney Blazershorts on Oct 19, 2019 14:22:45 GMT
Damn, Sgt Pepper not even top 11?
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Post by RINGO on Oct 22, 2019 21:48:29 GMT
Damn, Sgt Pepper not even top 11? Objectively the correct opinion. |
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Post by halloweenjack95 on Oct 25, 2019 20:51:23 GMT
1a. Abbey Road 1b. Hard Day's Night 3. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 4. Revolver 5. The White Album 6. Rubber Soul 7. Magical Mystery Tour 8. Help! 9. Please Please Me 10. Beatles for Sale This is my personal Top 10, not an objective ranking of their 'best.' It may look silly to have Abbey Road tied with A Hard Day's Night, but the latter is the first Beatles album that I ever heard and loved right off the bat. Where Abbey Road represents to me the pinnacle of their more mature, experimental work, A Hard Day's Night is their peak as a pure pop band who could churn killer two and a half minute pop records with a surprising amount of depth and substance. I find myself gravitating towards that earlier sound lately. A hard day's Night is a good Album. So it's not silly. |
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Post by EddieCheivz on Jul 27, 2020 23:25:09 GMT
I found this right now, but i'd like to expose my ideas and reasons why The Beatles is one of, if not the most important and transcendent rock band:
At mids of 60s, rock's principal essence haven't changed too much: same style of guitar playing, blues and rock n roll influencies, the timbral was very similar, etc. That's the principal reason why an average person without much rock knowledge confuse any 60s band with The Beatles, for that style.
At late of 60s Beatles was one of the first bands to started to incorporate new elements, new harmony rules to the rock. Even before Pink Floyd, Strawberry Alarm Clock or other bands, The Beatles wrote a song; one of the first psychedelic rock songs in history: "Tomorrow Never Knows" from Revolver album in 1966. That song shows yet new harmonies and effects.
Just the next year they realased "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band" that is one of the most important rock albums for rock development; why? well, it contains different songs with good musical proposals; for example the final part of "Lovely Rita", the structure and harmonie elements from "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band", psychedelic songs as "Being For The Beneficit Of Mr Kite" or "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds", clearly "A Day In The Life" is newfangled too, with that ascendent scales with newfangled musical atmosphere and harmonies, also that rhythm and harmonie change in Lennon's verses, etc.
But this is not all about Sgt Peppers importance; this album was the first of many rock albums to started to propose new things. Beatles made it first. Even currently is known (thanks to Nick Manson) Pink Floyd was recording at the same time in Abbey Road studios their first album "Piper at the Gates Of Dawn" when Beatles recording "Sgt Peppers". Nick talks they heared clearly when beatles was recording "Lovely Rita" that final part served to inspiration to Pink Floyd to compose "Pow R. Toc. H". There are some details in two songs are really similar: that strange vocals and hummings, that new percussions, that tense and dark atmosphere incorporated to the vocals, etc. Yeah, Beatles started with the psychedelia before than own Pink Floyd.
From here, many rock bands incorporated too similar elements and changes in their albums, since bands that changed their style too, as "Cream", "The Animals", "The Who", or "Jefferson Airplane" until others literally appeared being psychedelics from the beggining, as "Strawberry Alarm Clock", "Grateful Dead", "The Doors" etc. But according to rock chronology, all them could not get that inspirations, that ideas or styles if Beatles weren't do it before; isn't so difficult to continue a tendency or style, but create it, definitely it is.
The next years, The Beatles (and many more bands) continuing making good and newfangled things, albums as "White album" or "Magical Mystery Tour" contains newfangled songs, for example "Helter Skelter" with that guitar riffs and wild essency, with that final ending, or the azardous "Revolution 9", "I Am The Walrus" with that instruments and sounds, "Blue Jay Way", "Strawberry Fields Forever" with that psychedelia and that awesome ending, etc.
Abbey Road contains too good propositions for new rules and structures in music; for example: in the same way "A Day In The Life", in "I Want You" the instruments and the enitre band changes completely when they come back to Lennon verses; other rhythm, other harmony, other elements, the choruses isn't same, is one of the most trascendent Beatles songs IMO.
Also that final part (medley) from the album since "You Never Give Me Your Money" until the end (Her Majesy) altough they seems to be just many brief and adjacent songs, the orden exists just like that for a simple reason: all the songs are conected, one by one, for example if you're listening "You Never Give Me Your Money" at the end you can hear in the background as started to sound the fireflies and when starts "Sun King" now they're completely audible, clearly as atmosphere of the song, the same thing with the guitars connection between "Polythene Pam" and "She Came Trough The Batroom Window". The most famous are the medley "Golden Slumbers", "Carry That Weight" and "The End" ending with "Her Majesty", but actually the medley starts since "You Never Give Me Your Money".
Thanks to The Beatles for all and thanks to anyone for reading my ideas, and sorry if i went wrong writing something, i don't dominate my english at 100% :P but i think the principal point was exposed with enough clarity :)
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Post by halloweenjack95 on Jul 29, 2020 14:27:29 GMT
I found this right now, but i'd like to expose my ideas and reasons why The Beatles is one of, if not the most important and transcendent rock band: At mids of 60s, rock's principal essence haven't changed too much: same style of guitar playing, blues and rock n roll influencies, the timbral was very similar, etc. That's the principal reason why an average person without much rock knowledge confuse any 60s band with The Beatles, for that style. At late of 60s Beatles was one of the first bands to started to incorporate new elements, new harmony rules to the rock. Even before Pink Floyd, Strawberry Alarm Clock or other bands, The Beatles wrote a song; one of the first psychedelic rock songs in history: "Tomorrow Never Knows" from Revolver album in 1966. That song shows yet new harmonies and effects. Just the next year they realased "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band" that is one of the most important rock albums for rock development; why? well, it contains different songs with good musical proposals; for example the final part of "Lovely Rita", the structure and harmonie elements from "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band", psychedelic songs as "Being For The Beneficit Of Mr Kite" or "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds", clearly "A Day In The Life" is newfangled too, with that ascendent scales with newfangled musical atmosphere and harmonies, also that rhythm and harmonie change in Lennon's verses, etc. But this is not all about Sgt Peppers importance; this album was the first of many rock albums to started to propose new things. Beatles made it first. Even currently is known (thanks to Nick Manson) Pink Floyd was recording at the same time in Abbey Road studios their first album "Piper at the Gates Of Dawn" when Beatles recording "Sgt Peppers". Nick talks they heared clearly when beatles was recording "Lovely Rita" that final part served to inspiration to Pink Floyd to compose "Pow R. Toc. H". There are some details in two songs are really similar: that strange vocals and hummings, that new percussions, that tense and dark atmosphere incorporated to the vocals, etc. Yeah, Beatles started with the psychedelia before than own Pink Floyd. From here, many rock bands incorporated too similar elements and changes in their albums, since bands that changed their style too, as "Cream", "The Animals", "The Who", or "Jefferson Airplane" until others literally appeared being psychedelics from the beggining, as "Strawberry Alarm Clock", "Grateful Dead", "The Doors" etc. But according to rock chronology, all them could not get that inspirations, that ideas or styles if Beatles weren't do it before; isn't so difficult to continue a tendency or style, but create it, definitely it is. The next years, The Beatles (and many more bands) continuing making good and newfangled things, albums as "White album" or "Magical Mystery Tour" contains newfangled songs, for example "Helter Skelter" with that guitar riffs and wild essency, with that final ending, or the azardous "Revolution 9", "I Am The Walrus" with that instruments and sounds, "Blue Jay Way", "Strawberry Fields Forever" with that psychedelia and that awesome ending, etc. Abbey Road contains too good propositions for new rules and structures in music; for example: in the same way "A Day In The Life", in "I Want You" the instruments and the enitre band changes completely when they come back to Lennon verses; other rhythm, other harmony, other elements, the choruses isn't same, is one of the most trascendent Beatles songs IMO. Also that final part (medley) from the album since "You Never Give Me Your Money" until the end (Her Majesy) altough they seems to be just many brief and adjacent songs, the orden exists just like that for a simple reason: all the songs are conected, one by one, for example if you're listening "You Never Give Me Your Money" at the end you can hear in the background as started to sound the fireflies and when starts "Sun King" now they're completely audible, clearly as atmosphere of the song, the same thing with the guitars connection between "Polythene Pam" and "She Came Trough The Batroom Window". The most famous are the medley "Golden Slumbers", "Carry That Weight" and "The End" ending with "Her Majesty", but actually the medley starts since "You Never Give Me Your Money". Thanks to The Beatles for all and thanks to anyone for reading my ideas, and sorry if i went wrong writing something, i don't dominate my english at 100%  but i think the principal point was exposed with enough clarity  Well,well written. Along with The Doors.. the Beatles are my favourite Band. But its a bit unfair to claim they invented all by them selfs. The harmonies for example. They really profited from the Beach Boys! Brian Wilson created complex harmonies way before them. And Bob Dylan was a huge Influence for the Beatles,too. Besides that.. I know this is an extremly unpopular opinion.. but I think Sgt peppers isnt as good as many claim it to be. Revolver is overall the better Album and it's full of Psychedelia,too. On the other Hand I agree with many things you said. Their Influence on other artists and bands is extreme. I dont want to be too harsh. Because like I said.. my Favorite band. |
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Post by EddieCheivz on Aug 1, 2020 22:47:27 GMT
I found this right now, but i'd like to expose my ideas and reasons why The Beatles is one of, if not the most important and transcendent rock band: At mids of 60s, rock's principal essence haven't changed too much: same style of guitar playing, blues and rock n roll influencies, the timbral was very similar, etc. That's the principal reason why an average person without much rock knowledge confuse any 60s band with The Beatles, for that style. At late of 60s Beatles was one of the first bands to started to incorporate new elements, new harmony rules to the rock. Even before Pink Floyd, Strawberry Alarm Clock or other bands, The Beatles wrote a song; one of the first psychedelic rock songs in history: "Tomorrow Never Knows" from Revolver album in 1966. That song shows yet new harmonies and effects. Just the next year they realased "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band" that is one of the most important rock albums for rock development; why? well, it contains different songs with good musical proposals; for example the final part of "Lovely Rita", the structure and harmonie elements from "Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band", psychedelic songs as "Being For The Beneficit Of Mr Kite" or "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds", clearly "A Day In The Life" is newfangled too, with that ascendent scales with newfangled musical atmosphere and harmonies, also that rhythm and harmonie change in Lennon's verses, etc. But this is not all about Sgt Peppers importance; this album was the first of many rock albums to started to propose new things. Beatles made it first. Even currently is known (thanks to Nick Manson) Pink Floyd was recording at the same time in Abbey Road studios their first album "Piper at the Gates Of Dawn" when Beatles recording "Sgt Peppers". Nick talks they heared clearly when beatles was recording "Lovely Rita" that final part served to inspiration to Pink Floyd to compose "Pow R. Toc. H". There are some details in two songs are really similar: that strange vocals and hummings, that new percussions, that tense and dark atmosphere incorporated to the vocals, etc. Yeah, Beatles started with the psychedelia before than own Pink Floyd. From here, many rock bands incorporated too similar elements and changes in their albums, since bands that changed their style too, as "Cream", "The Animals", "The Who", or "Jefferson Airplane" until others literally appeared being psychedelics from the beggining, as "Strawberry Alarm Clock", "Grateful Dead", "The Doors" etc. But according to rock chronology, all them could not get that inspirations, that ideas or styles if Beatles weren't do it before; isn't so difficult to continue a tendency or style, but create it, definitely it is. The next years, The Beatles (and many more bands) continuing making good and newfangled things, albums as "White album" or "Magical Mystery Tour" contains newfangled songs, for example "Helter Skelter" with that guitar riffs and wild essency, with that final ending, or the azardous "Revolution 9", "I Am The Walrus" with that instruments and sounds, "Blue Jay Way", "Strawberry Fields Forever" with that psychedelia and that awesome ending, etc. Abbey Road contains too good propositions for new rules and structures in music; for example: in the same way "A Day In The Life", in "I Want You" the instruments and the enitre band changes completely when they come back to Lennon verses; other rhythm, other harmony, other elements, the choruses isn't same, is one of the most trascendent Beatles songs IMO. Also that final part (medley) from the album since "You Never Give Me Your Money" until the end (Her Majesy) altough they seems to be just many brief and adjacent songs, the orden exists just like that for a simple reason: all the songs are conected, one by one, for example if you're listening "You Never Give Me Your Money" at the end you can hear in the background as started to sound the fireflies and when starts "Sun King" now they're completely audible, clearly as atmosphere of the song, the same thing with the guitars connection between "Polythene Pam" and "She Came Trough The Batroom Window". The most famous are the medley "Golden Slumbers", "Carry That Weight" and "The End" ending with "Her Majesty", but actually the medley starts since "You Never Give Me Your Money". Thanks to The Beatles for all and thanks to anyone for reading my ideas, and sorry if i went wrong writing something, i don't dominate my english at 100% but i think the principal point was exposed with enough clarity Well,well written. Along with The Doors.. the Beatles are my favourite Band. But its a bit unfair to claim they invented all by them selfs. The harmonies for example. They really profited from the Beach Boys! Brian Wilson created complex harmonies way before them. And Bob Dylan was a huge Influence for the Beatles,too. Besides that.. I know this is an extremly unpopular opinion.. but I think Sgt peppers isnt as good as many claim it to be. Revolver is overall the better Album and it's full of Psychedelia,too. On the other Hand I agree with many things you said. Their Influence on other artists and bands is extreme. I dont want to be too harsh. Because like I said.. my Favorite band. Yeah, welll maybe i explained all that development just from Beatles perspective, but certainly as you said, they didn't invent everything, of course they started to propose different things taking inspiration from different ways; yeah they weren't the only one, but i think probably they were the band contributed more, but yeah i recall now albums by Frank Zappa or Beach Boys before Beatles with some details probably served as inspiration to continue with the psychedelia. In addition to their influence, also i think the greatest thing to show their importancy is to see rock history; that period in all was designed and formed, (new rock genres, different vocal styles, new instruments and the apparition after will be elements present in 80s pop and rock songs, etc) was in good measure determinated for their proposals and musical changes (along with other ones from other bands of course). 1966-1972 period basically determinated all principal rock slopes to create rock history. I think "Revolver" was very important beacuse is one of the albums are present in that beggining to propose new things, clearly with newfangled elements and very differents musical changes with previous albums, but IMO that psychedelia or new ideas wasn't too developed until "Sgt Peppers" i think difference is Revolver is important for start with that changes and Sgt Peppers is too for continue it and culminate it wonderfully, but i'd like to know your reasons about Revolver is even better. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2022 21:22:37 GMT
Here's my album ranking:
1. Rubber Soul
2. Abbey Road
3. The White Album
4. Please Please Me
5. Beatles for Sale
6. With the Beatles
7. Help!
8. A Hard Day's Night
9. Revolver
10. Let It Be
11. Yellow Submarine
12. Magical Mystery Tour
13. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
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