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Post by motorist on Nov 15, 2022 3:20:47 GMT
Is there any consensus on whether the B4 scream in "Comfortably Numb" is Roger or David: youtu.be/_FrOQC-zEog?t=205Not familiar enough with their voices to tell, to me it doesn't sound far off from David's live D5 Queenfan listed, but the studio scream sounds a lot more strained which might indicate otherwise. |
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Post by IhateMana on Nov 16, 2022 8:47:52 GMT
almost certainly Roger
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Post by motorist on Jan 13, 2023 2:38:13 GMT
Also remove counting notes for "Summer 68'" since vocals in that song are Richard Wright, no David. Don't know if exist a reason they're been counted here, but that song in completely composed and sung by Wright Not sure about that one, actually. The D3 on "HOW do you feel" sounds like Gilmour to me, different from the D3 you listed for Richard WrightI also think the A4 sounds like David Gilmour. That's the louder note, I think I'd be hearing a heavier accent on that one if it was Richard Wright. I can still hear Rick singing a backing F4 there, just not the lead A4. Admittedly, it would be strange if Wright got Gilmour to sing that part but it just doesn't sound like Rick's other high notes to me, such as the "It Would Be So Nice" B4 (which I think is undoubtedly Wright) or the "Arnold Layne" A4 to me. Gilmour is credited for backing vocals, so it's not completely out of the question, unless you have some additional info. On top of that, there's this harmony section at 4:17. It's hard to tell what the highest note is, but I'm pretty sure it's a faint F5 barely audible in the background at 4:21, that drops to an E5. There's also a D5 that's clearly audible from the start, but even then I can't tell who it is. Is it listed somewhere that some choir or other group sang it and Rick and David were no part of that? edit: I believe this A4 in "Comfortably Numb" should be colored black |
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Post by queenfan11 on Mar 10, 2023 4:40:28 GMT
In addition to the F#4s listed, "A New Machine (Part 1)" has G4s, such as here:
The G#4 in the Live at Pompeii performance of "A Saucerful of Secrets" is actually a G4, the most common Youtube videos of it are pitched up to avoid copyright detection. Here's the correct speed:
There's also a falsetto B4 at 32:29 that wasn't listed.
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Post by EddieCheivz on Mar 13, 2023 19:15:24 GMT
Also remove counting notes for "Summer 68'" since vocals in that song are Richard Wright, no David. Don't know if exist a reason they're been counted here, but that song in completely composed and sung by Wright Not sure about that one, actually. The D3 on "HOW do you feel" sounds like Gilmour to me, different from the D3 you listed for Richard WrightI also think the A4 sounds like David Gilmour. That's the louder note, I think I'd be hearing a heavier accent on that one if it was Richard Wright. I can still hear Rick singing a backing F4 there, just not the lead A4. Admittedly, it would be strange if Wright got Gilmour to sing that part but it just doesn't sound like Rick's other high notes to me, such as the "It Would Be So Nice" B4 (which I think is undoubtedly Wright) or the "Arnold Layne" A4 to me. Gilmour is credited for backing vocals, so it's not completely out of the question, unless you have some additional info. On top of that, there's this harmony section at 4:17. It's hard to tell what the highest note is, but I'm pretty sure it's a faint F5 barely audible in the background at 4:21, that drops to an E5. There's also a D5 that's clearly audible from the start, but even then I can't tell who it is. Is it listed somewhere that some choir or other group sang it and Rick and David were no part of that? -Okay I was doubtful too about that vocal lines from "Summer 68'" choruses. I actually hearing "How do you feel" lower ones as Gilmour voice, yeah. But I'm not really convinced higher ones were him too. I'm between Wright and Gilmour voice for that black F#4 and A4. Honeslty I'm something like 70% Wright 30% Gilmour for that notes. If you listen entire section, would make sense vocal lines actually they're both singers: one after other one. Gilmour starts with first "How do you feel" line on a mid-low range, after goes Wright with the other "How do you feel" line on a higher register. Gilmour respond with other mid-low range for the next "How do you feel" one, and finally Wright respond again doing other higher vocal line. Seems to be like a very common case where two or more instruments (those are voices in this one) playing different lines and musically replying between themselves I'd say. -For the moment I have not good headphones honestly I cannot hear the F5 at 4:21 but that does not mean I don't think is there, just I can't talk about it by now. But I'd say all falsetto vocals from that song are Wright really, so if actually exists an F5 there probably is him too. |
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Post by PerhapsXarb on Oct 18, 2023 15:59:44 GMT
If this thread is expanded or redone, I think the upper threshold should definitely be lowered to F4 or possibly E4 considering Gilmour’s general placement
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Post by senatorsenpai on Oct 18, 2023 16:45:42 GMT
Waiting with bated breath for those David Gilmour E4's!
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Post by leafylemontree on Oct 18, 2023 17:53:22 GMT
leafylemontree since you've made some good finds for this thread, would you by any chance be interested in taking it over? It could definitely use some updating; Holsety isn't an active forum member anymore and none of staff members have really gotten around to taking care of it either. Although I don't have anywhere near the experience for being in charge of a major thread, and will surely ask you if some new finds count, sure, I would like to update it, and maybe lower the upper threshold as some of you said. |
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Post by Macca on Oct 18, 2023 18:10:38 GMT
leafylemontree since you've made some good finds for this thread, would you by any chance be interested in taking it over? It could definitely use some updating; Holsety isn't an active forum member anymore and none of staff members have really gotten around to taking care of it either. Although I don't have anywhere near the experience for being in charge of a major thread, and will surely ask you if some new finds count, sure, I would like to update it, and maybe lower the upper threshold as some of you said. I think the current thresholds are fine IMO |
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Post by PerhapsXarb on Oct 18, 2023 19:27:45 GMT
Although I don't have anywhere near the experience for being in charge of a major thread, and will surely ask you if some new finds count, sure, I would like to update it, and maybe lower the upper threshold as some of you said. I think the current thresholds are fine IMO I thought you might say that, but I don't think he's placed high enough to have them starting at F#4 (certainly no Rivers Cuomo), and Waters, who is maybe marginally higher placed than him (though at his peak, stronger on both ends) has them starting at E4. Maybe F4 makes more sense since he's used his highs more consistently than Waters throughout his career. But in any case, I think this thread should probably be redone from scratch to TRP 2023 standards, as Waters's was. |
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Post by Henny Macc on Oct 19, 2023 18:21:56 GMT
leafylemontree since you've made some good finds for this thread, would you by any chance be interested in taking it over? It could definitely use some updating; Holsety isn't an active forum member anymore and none of staff members have really gotten around to taking care of it either. Although I don't have anywhere near the experience for being in charge of a major thread, and will surely ask you if some new finds count, sure, I would like to update it, and maybe lower the upper threshold as some of you said. Well, the current version of the OP is pretty accurately pitched and everything, so I don't think it would need to be restarted from scratch or anything. You could just copy the current OP, credit Holsety for his share of the research, and then update it with any of the additional finds you've made. Seems like you've uncovered some good ones, so I think the thread would be in good hands with you! |
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Post by leafylemontree on Dec 11, 2023 3:03:27 GMT
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Post by jwo on Feb 29, 2024 12:58:31 GMT
He does a good job of the Bb4 in Shine On at various times. Possibly a candidate for a bold note?
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Post by Henny Macc on Feb 29, 2024 22:48:52 GMT
By the way, do you think this note is countable? youtu.be/O42zhD28JvM 46:25 Seems like a D2. (Also, there are some E2s in the same song) Hey y'all, are we ready to count this note yet? Sounds pretty legit to me coming back to it almost three years later. He hits it pretty solidly on "but very wise WAS he". |
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Post by EddieCheivz on Mar 3, 2024 9:18:30 GMT
By the way, do you think this note is countable? youtu.be/O42zhD28JvM 46:25 Seems like a D2. (Also, there are some E2s in the same song) Hey y'all, are we ready to count this note yet? Sounds pretty legit to me coming back to it almost three years later. He hits it pretty solidly on "but very wise WAS he". Admittedly it sounds like a clear part of the melody but I feel it's simply that kind of note you really try to avoid to put as a range extremity. Note itself does not convince me totally for make me think he's actually able to hit a countable D2 either. |
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Post by EddieCheivz on Mar 5, 2024 8:07:55 GMT
What I'm hearing is that you would be willing to count it if it weren't a range expansion but because it's not the most impressive as an extremity you don't want to I mean, I could go on any way with counting it or no if note itself would not expanding his range and just help to show a bit more in the thread his new low notes habilities, even when I'm not feel particularly inclined for counting it. But if making that, implies also extend his range just for a note that actually sounds very nano and misrepresentative of his voice then I would not feel really agree with having that tiny D2 there. |
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Post by senatorsenpai on Mar 5, 2024 16:48:35 GMT
D2 clip sounds clear enough IMO.
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