User Vocal Ranges (16,670 views)

[brutalism]

Dec 21, 2021 12:29:00 GMT kaji said:

Dec 20, 2021 3:51:17 GMT brutalism said:

I find the idea that your tessitura spans from B1 to E4 quite unlikely. Even a low bass will typically not have a B1 in full voice in their tessitura. It will be in their range obviously (for any bass), but tessitura is quite different. E4 in full voice would also be past the tessitura for many basses though I heard exceptions of course.

 Yes, if by tessitura you mean very loud notes, or usable without amplification over an orchestra etc., I get what you mean. 

I used the term as in where I have the best consistency. But it would be smaller if I meant 'loud' indeed.

I just didn't use in the traditional sense because I don't have much of an idea of how much volume is needed to project over a large space and orchestration without a mic.

[Velsarie Vivardesque]

Max ...<C1 - G7
Actually redoable max Eb1 - B6
Somewhat consistent limit A1 - Eb6
Natural chest only voice limit F#2 - B4 ;)

[glo]

🤷🏽‍♀️ let’s see what response this gets
 

[brutalism]

Dec 25, 2021 21:40:14 GMT glo said:

🤷🏽‍♀️ let’s see what response this gets
 

Hey there. I saw that you created a thread to talk about voice feminization and that you are transgender, and I would like to say that your lower and mid-range notes don't sound masculine at all to me. I think your speaking voice sounds very relaxed and natural.

[glo]

Thanks brutalism — I agree, based on this clip & how I usually sing and speak. I’m still capable of more masculine textures (perhaps always will be) but I generally have a cool, calming alto. I think the high notes are good too but people often complain about them, even though it’s where I personally like to sing most. It’s a curse of mine. I think they’re pretty well-displayed here though. Thank you for listening ☺️

Update: yeah, listening back it sounds increasingly effortful for me to keep pace with the notes as I go up, even though they might potentially be there. I suppose it makes sense as I’m transitioning from what’s naturally been a baritone voice, but it needs work nonetheless. The “Moving” by Kate Bush excerpt seems to be the breaking point, where it’s peak hit-or-miss, and then the whistle notes still need to connect to the rest of the range. As of this recording at least. But probably around B2 to G♯5, I’m pretty comfortable.

In my opinion this has better high notes, up to A5 in full voice and B6 overall as well… youtu.be/591aQ00MrwQ. I’m working on it. I think the main thing with the upper half of my range is that it gets thin and shaky; I find this is even the case when I speak. But then I’ll even have moments where I can indeed sing piercingly and resonantly into the stratosphere; those moments reassure me.

There’s also this: youtu.be/InLVeCENlas

[brutalism]

glo , if you would explore more songs in your mid-range, I think you would be very positively surprised by your own voice's performance. It's very soothing in this range.

[glo]

I feel that. I still feel conflicted over it. It’s just not the only thing I do. I’m not always looking for Karen Carpenter soothing. Of course I want to speak to people though. I think the “When the Battle’s Done” song displays that wide range well. I do think my voice sounds best in that middle B2 to G♯5 range I’ll admit, maybe even D3 to E5. Currently though I’m in a spell where I can barely sing above A3, which is concerning.

I will admit though, it probably comes across as superfluous to attempt all these stratospheric notes like A5 and D6 and G6 so often when I can perform in a more pedestrian range just fine and expressively at that. I guess I just fear my voice isn’t that special — or rather, I feel my voice lacks that innocent quality, or that it’s not so variegated after all (though it must be, if I can sing so big as well as so delicately). Especially as a composer I feel those overtone notes are so useful and expressive. And I guess I have hangups over the fact that I’m vocally capable of first octave notes but have trained against it. Yes indeed, I am, though I deliberately don’t show it much.

What I’ll certainly do is keep it in mind what you’ve told me. I think there’s a lot of virtue to be gained in singing in a way that isn’t overly strenuous or effortful. That’s how you work your way to a large and multifaceted sound anyway. If you don’t know your tessitura, then your voice gets out of hand. Do I have range? It depends on the day. But pushing for it only obstructs it. The best thing is to feel vocally free. My voice changes so often though it seems. It’s hard to get a grip on.

[brookesquatchy]

Kinda cringe to just ramble about dumb nonsense like my vocal range but I'll throw in my range here I guess.

High Notes
My chest-y belts cut off around G4/G♯4 most days, but sometimes I can eek out a A4/B♭4. I can mix decently to about E♭5, and my falsetto can pretty reliably go to C6-D6 although quality in tone becomes an issue above A5 or so. I used to be able to hit meh but sung notes up to F♯6 with whistle but as I've abandoned whistle voice due to its confliction with the timbre of (what i think is) my baritone voice, the register has just about left me completely.

Low Notes
I can maintain decent (?) timbre down to B1/B♭1 but in order to hit stable notes below that my voice basically becomes all air. I've hit G♯1s/G1s that aren't particularly fryish sounding but my voice gets kinda thin and is pretty breathy down there. Without morning voice my limit hangs around C2 as my lowest note with any form of stability, though when my voice is rested I've gotten some midday B1s/B♭1s that aren't super shaky (if ur curious my typical lowest strictly M1 note hovers around C♯2). Subs and growl both took me to about E1 when I was most practiced with each register. I've lost a bit of my subharmonic capability so F♯1 is probably a more realistic limit for subharmonics but I still use growl pretty often so E1 is still a pretty available note for me in that register.

If I were recording a song I would hesitate to push lead vocals beyond the extremes of about D2-F4-G5, and wouldn't typically push notes in harmonies or acapella instrumentals and what have u beyond C2-G♯4-A5 or so, though I'm technically no stranger to notes outside of those thresholds. My voice sounds best from about F♯2-E4-F5

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Every day range after warm-up: A2 - C6

Example of my tessitura in the vid below(yes, I'm the guy in the vid):




Lowest recorded fry - unstable F#0 sliding upwards

voca.ro/13WGIYgoC4t5

EDIT: Think I got down to a D0 here at the bottom - voca.ro/1eZRHhdw35Sw

Highest whistle note yet(just learning) - C#8

voca.ro/18gLxaLZtavh

Highest "frequency" "singing - C10(touched but not recorded - this is an F9 or F#9) (experimental, ugly, unstable, squeaky and not controlled or mastered at all)

voca.ro/1ou19oHRZw0H

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Chest voice: D2 - C4 (sometimes I can hit a very weak E4 or a barely audible C2 or B1 if I’m lucky) (C4’s are also difficult for me, but they’re countable IMO)
Falsetto: G#3 - G5 (I can hit a very harsh A5 or Bb5, but I can’t surpass that)
I’ve hit a G#6 before with an aimless shriek, but that really hurt my throat and it’s not countable. I can also inhale whistle notes aimlessly in the sixth or lower seventh octave. But overall, my countable range is D2 - C4 - G5.

[blazejecar2]

Given so many actually took it seriously, I guess I'll post something. And I'll include some linked clips for the sake of proof. I haven't been releasing music for long so a lot of these are demos or practice stuff

Full range wank range: G#-1 - G9 (no R** would count those so let's ignore this)
Recorded range in songs: Bb-1 (yet unreleased) - Eb9
buuuut Bb is inhaled and the Eb9 is a meme squeak I did for a "how to be power metal" video/song, trying for like 20 minutes to produce the highest thing I could that day. Definitely can't do that live or consistently or whatever (recording is over guitar pro cause we ended up burying it in the mix later and this is the only other clip i have). Let's ignore these too, they still don't count.

Possibly reasonably countable range: (A0 growl) C#1 - C8
- A0 is a brief growl around 0:20 in the clip and there's a bunch of C1s around it, idk if those count or not. It's either that or this harsh vocals practice Bb0. It's deliberate pitch at least but I wouldn't count it if I made a thread about me. C#1 was the lowest melodic subharmonic note I used so far I believe and I'd count that, but that's also to be released. I do a bunch of various low singing for one of my bands, like in this clip. Though this is mostly just fry. There's also a very faint D1 at the very ending, if you can catch it.
- C8 is from a cover I did while practicing belting and such (I was still quite shit here though), randomly added whistles in here and there. It's probably max I could somewhat reliably do. I've done several notes in this range before, like this demo B7 and another C8. I've also voice acted a parody character in whistle register, up to C7/D7 I can talk in that range anytime, singing up to C8 is like...on a pretty decent day so somewhere in between I guess is the limit of countability.
-before anyone asks, I don't do inhale whistles in songs, but I did use them occasionally in the voice acting part, cause some consonants are just a nightmare for whistle register if you want to make the lines intelligible.

Full voice with nothing fancy: this backing vocal Eb2 - this very old practice cover E6
Eb2 does need to be a decent day, E6 I can do reliably, but I wouldn't do it live to avoid strain. My bands have some songs with C6-D6 notes, which I do replicate live though.
Full voice range on the best of days: D2 - F6

[Macca]

That High Talking Clip Is Kinda Like Ivan Dorin with His Hissy Voice

[blazejecar2]

Truth be told, the way I learned whistle register and all the other super high stuff I do was by doing Ivan Dorin noises in my room or car for months until I figured out how to do it consistently and how to control it on the same level as my speaking voice. Idk if neighbors could hear me but if they did, it must've been hilarious

And then I ran into the problem of how the hell to use that range in a meaningful way in songs (._. )

[motorist]

Jan 7, 2022 10:05:38 GMT blazejecar2 said:

Given so many actually took it seriously, I guess I'll post something. And I'll include some linked clips for the sake of proof. I haven't been releasing music for long so a lot of these are demos or practice stuff

Full range wank range: G#-1 - G9 (no R** would count those so let's ignore this)
Recorded range in songs: Bb-1 (yet unreleased) - Eb9
buuuut Bb is inhaled and the Eb9 is a meme squeak I did for a "how to be power metal" video/song, trying for like 20 minutes to produce the highest thing I could that day. Definitely can't do that live or consistently or whatever (recording is over guitar pro cause we ended up burying it in the mix later and this is the only other clip i have). Let's ignore these too, they still don't count.

Possibly reasonably countable range: (A0 growl) C#1 - C8
- A0 is a brief growl around 0:20 in the clip and there's a bunch of C1s around it, idk if those count or not. It's either that or this harsh vocals practice Bb0. It's deliberate pitch at least but I wouldn't count it if I made a thread about me. C#1 was the lowest melodic subharmonic note I used so far I believe and I'd count that, but that's also to be released. I do a bunch of various low singing for one of my bands, like in this clip. Though this is mostly just fry. There's also a very faint D1 at the very ending, if you can catch it.
- C8 is from a cover I did while practicing belting and such (I was still quite shit here though), randomly added whistles in here and there. It's probably max I could somewhat reliably do. I've done several notes in this range before, like this demo B7 and another C8. I've also voice acted a parody character in whistle register, up to C7/D7 I can talk in that range anytime, singing up to C8 is like...on a pretty decent day so somewhere in between I guess is the limit of countability.
-before anyone asks, I don't do inhale whistles in songs, but I did use them occasionally in the voice acting part, cause some consonants are just a nightmare for whistle register if you want to make the lines intelligible.

Full voice with nothing fancy: this backing vocal Eb2 - this very old practice cover E6
Eb2 does need to be a decent day, E6 I can do reliably, but I wouldn't do it live to avoid strain. My bands have some songs with C6-D6 notes, which I do replicate live though.
Full voice range on the best of days: D2 - F6

Trying to outclass Dale Thompson in every possible way huh? Hope to see a 7 octave thread sometime, lots of cool stuff in there...

[Brenda]

F♯2 – B♭4 – B♭5

I'm transgender and I have a singing thread, didn't wanna plug it because it's right there but.. like, nobody commented anything so I felt kinda bad.

[Steingrim]

(E1) Bb1 - F#5 (Bb5)

I'm some kind of baritone. I can sing a C5 fairly easily but D5 is difficult to phrase. Singing F5s drains energy quickly. I'm the most comfortable between about G2-C4. My primo passaggio is just above there.

The E1 is strohbass, meaning the vocal fry is still producing a reasonably musical note. I've also managed an F1 in subharmonics, with no consistency at all. For me falsetto is mainly useful for softening high notes. John Farnham makes good use of it to soften some A4s in "You're the voice", even though the refrain goes up to C5.  

[blazejecar2]

Feb 22, 2022 1:04:48 GMT motorist said:

Trying to outclass Dale Thompson in every possible way huh? Hope to see a 7 octave thread sometime, lots of cool stuff in there...

Nothing to do with Dale lol but if you think I can outclass him someday, that's flattering, thanks x)

[motorist]

Feb 24, 2022 19:47:25 GMT blazejecar2 said:

Feb 22, 2022 1:04:48 GMT motorist said:

Trying to outclass Dale Thompson in every possible way huh? Hope to see a 7 octave thread sometime, lots of cool stuff in there...

Nothing to do with Dale lol but if you think I can outclass him someday, that's flattering, thanks x)

Just in that you've put an extreme amount of effort into expanding your range like he has... and yes I do think that.

[paralipan]

F2 - G♯2 - F3 - A3
on a good day i can fry down to E2.

[Captain Planet]

Mar 1, 2022 23:12:01 GMT paralipan said:

G2 - B2 - E3 - G3
on a good day i can fry down to F2.

Is your name Lemmy Kilmister or Frank Zappa? 

[Steingrim]

Mar 1, 2022 23:12:01 GMT paralipan said:

G2 - B2 - E3 - G3
on a good day i can fry down to F2.

That's awesome. I can take falsetto down to A2, which hurts for some reason. I can of course belt up into the fourth octave somewhere. Not sure how high I would be able to fry. But developing some kind of negative range with falsetto at the bottom, then head voice then belting at the top ought to be possible.

A2 - F3 - F4 - ??

The sound of that will be a true novelty. I will have to work on some proper transitions between the various registers, then pretend that everything is completely normal.

[acnyte]

Hello hello :)
My tessitura is that of a Lyric Baritone, but I have expanded it quite a bit. Starting with lower notes I have the potential to sing to F#1 one without turning into ridiculous fry noises. Comfortably I'd say I can sing to B1 fairly regularly. In terms of my mixed voice, I have a song where I sing Eb5 repeatedly in the layering and that's about where my "consistent mix" ends (although there's a recording of me in high school hitting a mixed Bb5 but I genuinely don't know how lol) My falsetto ends at around C6, and my whistle can go to Eb7. So if I were to plot it out I'd say F#1-Eb5-Eb7 but I also think it's important to recognize that's just a possible range. Performing live I strictly limit myself to Eb2-Bb4-F#5, because I believe that most of the time we vocalists need limits. 2.5 solid octaves in chest/mix sound better than 5-7 octaves of wildly inconsistent pitches

[Brenda]

Feb 22, 2022 2:00:17 GMT Brenda said:

F♯2 – B♭4 – B♭5

I'm transgender and I have a singing thread, didn't wanna plug it because it's right there but.. like, nobody commented anything so I felt kinda bad.

I had a range expansion since I posted this xD

F♯2 – B4 – C6 (although Sawyer said I hit a D6 on call, but I'm not sure 👀)

[Steingrim]

Apr 18, 2022 16:03:28 GMT acnyte said:

Hello hello :)
My tessitura is that of a Lyric Baritone, but I have expanded it quite a bit.

Starting with lower notes I have the potential to sing to F#1 one without turning into ridiculous fry noises. Comfortably I'd say I can sing to B1 fairly regularly. In terms of my mixed voice, I have a song where I sing Eb5 repeatedly in the layering and that's about where my "consistent mix" ends (although there's a recording of me in high school hitting a mixed Bb5 but I genuinely don't know how lol) My falsetto ends at around C6, and my whistle can go to Eb7. So if I were to plot it out I'd say F#1-Eb5-Eb7 but I also think it's important to recognize that's just a possible range. Performing live I strictly limit myself to Eb2-Bb4-F#5, because I believe that most of the time we vocalists need limits. 2.5 solid octaves in chest/mix sound better than 5-7 octaves of wildly inconsistent pitches

Does that designation mean that your passagi are at B3 and E4, or do you judge that by other criteria ? 

[acnyte]

Apr 18, 2022 18:59:43 GMT Steingrim said:

Apr 18, 2022 16:03:28 GMT acnyte said:

Hello hello :)
My tessitura is that of a Lyric Baritone, but I have expanded it quite a bit.

Starting with lower notes I have the potential to sing to F#1 one without turning into ridiculous fry noises. Comfortably I'd say I can sing to B1 fairly regularly. In terms of my mixed voice, I have a song where I sing Eb5 repeatedly in the layering and that's about where my "consistent mix" ends (although there's a recording of me in high school hitting a mixed Bb5 but I genuinely don't know how lol) My falsetto ends at around C6, and my whistle can go to Eb7. So if I were to plot it out I'd say F#1-Eb5-Eb7 but I also think it's important to recognize that's just a possible range. Performing live I strictly limit myself to Eb2-Bb4-F#5, because I believe that most of the time we vocalists need limits. 2.5 solid octaves in chest/mix sound better than 5-7 octaves of wildly inconsistent pitches

Does that designation mean that your passagi are at B3 and E4, or do you judge that by other criteria ? 

Yeah definitely. When I was younger I thought I was a low tenor cause I could vocalize F when I was 15. The more I learned about the primo/and secondo the more I definitely started to agree with that lyric Baritone classification