User Vocal Ranges (16,674 views)

[Steingrim]

Best C5 so far. Still trying to figure out vibrato.




A couple of songs from F#2 and E2.

[TheCMRecluse]

Lowest fry note: D1
Lowest chest note: A1
Highest chest note: Bb4
Highest mixed note: F5
Highest falsetto: C6
Highest scream/whistle: F#6

[Steingrim]

Dec 20, 2022 1:45:35 GMT TheCMRecluse said:

Lowest fry note: D1
Lowest chest note: A1
Highest chest note: Bb4
Highest mixed note: F5
Highest falsetto: C6
Highest scream/whistle: F#6

That's a lot of total range. What voice type would that be, bass baritone ?

[TheCMRecluse]

Baritone. Although I call myself a "high" baritone.

[Steingrim]

Dec 20, 2022 17:12:34 GMT TheCMRecluse said:

Baritone. Although I call myself a "high" baritone.

Your chest range is fairly similar to Geoff Castellucci's. He sings (rather maxed) from G1-Bb4 and can probably get an F#1. Your M2 range (mixed voice + falsetto) is tenor like but that doesn't really factor into voice type. 

Elvis was a high baritone with good low notes, he topped out at about C5 but he could certainly have reached a D5 or higher for a max.

Do you know where your passagi are, your two break points ? 

[TheCMRecluse]

Head: C6
Middle or mixed: D5 or F5
Chest: Bb4

Though I understand what you're talking about with mixed voice I just feel like with F5 it's my breaking point to almost go full on "falsetto" or head voice or a scream to go higher. Kind of similar to people like Jonathan Davis, Greg Puciato or Maynard James Keenan. I can sing higher notes in a melodious manner but still feel my point is up to around an D5-F5 depending on my oxygen and texture as I sometimes can have voice cracks though I can mostly reach them fine

[Steingrim]

Dec 20, 2022 21:03:38 GMT TheCMRecluse said:

Head: C6
Middle or mixed: D5 or F5
Chest: Bb4

Though I understand what you're talking about with mixed voice I just feel like with F5 it's my breaking point to almost go full on "falsetto" or head voice or a scream to go higher. Kind of similar to people like Jonathan Davis, Greg Puciato or Maynard James Keenan. I can sing higher notes in a melodious manner but still feel my point is up to around an D5-F5 depending on my oxygen and texture as I sometimes can have voice cracks though I can mostly reach them fine

No, the passagi or break points are found within the chest range, somewhere between the upper third octave and the upper fourth octave for males. You should read about that if you want to figure out your voice better. 

[TheCMRecluse]

I will. I still am learning. Thank you!

[jwo]

Hi apologies if this is in the wrong bit, I'm new here. But my question is this: I've seen throughout this forum references to the pitch of non-vocal, spoken notes. How does one determine what note a sound is if it has no discernable pitch?

My usable range is quite small, probably about G2-A4. On a good day I can just about make a C#2 in fry, and the highest I've ever screamed is about Bb5, but this wouldn't be usable.

[Homelander]

Sept 13, 2022 15:58:42 GMT Steingrim said:

Best C5 so far. Still trying to figure out vibrato.




A couple of songs from F#2 and E2.

Wow. That C5 is very impressive!

[Bink]

Feb 8, 2023 19:40:33 GMT jwo said:

Hi apologies if this is in the wrong bit, I'm new here. But my question is this: I've seen throughout this forum references to the pitch of non-vocal, spoken notes. How does one determine what note a sound is if it has no discernable pitch?

My usable range is quite small, probably about G2-A4. On a good day I can just about make a C#2 in fry, and the highest I've ever screamed is about Bb5, but this wouldn't be usable.

Alright, to answer your question about spoken notes. I at least mainly count them for two reasons-

1. If it actually does have a discernable pitch.

Such as this spoken note, which is very clearly on a solid G2

SPOILER: Click to show

{G2}

2. If spoken notes is a huge part of their catalogue.

For example, Van Morrison usually does these large spoken monologues in the middle of a song and usually brings it to the depth of low range demonstrated in songs such as Angelou, Summertime In England and In The Garden.

He even has entire songs that are spoken such as On Hyndford Street.

However criteria in mind, this doesn't mean were just gonna any random spoken E2 from some random interview in 1987, otherwise some threads would look very dumb. Hope this helps.

Now as this is a user vocal ranges thread, my range is F♯-7 to G♯10

[Steingrim]

Feb 8, 2023 21:04:15 GMT Homelander said:

Sept 13, 2022 15:58:42 GMT Steingrim said:

Best C5 so far. Still trying to figure out vibrato.

A couple of songs from F#2 and E2.

Wow. That C5 is very impressive!

Thanks. I've been working on singing high notes with less effort. In time I will hopefully have a decent high C.

[jwo]

Feb 8, 2023 21:05:30 GMT Bink said:

Now as this is a user vocal ranges thread, my range is F♯-7 to G♯10

How have you been able to determine that?

[rootyrootz]

Voice type: Baritone
Vocal range: D2 - A4 - F♯5
Comfortable: C♯3 - C♯4
Non-musical garbage: B♭1 - C6

[Kreuger]

I dunno how Ive missed this thread but here it goes.

Every day comfortable range: F#2 - E5.
If Im having a good day I can drop to F2 although not with a remarkable consistency and I can push up to F#5.

Extremes: C2 to G5 with no consistency at all. Very hard for me to do either of those.

[fox]

A1 to C5.

Not sure if I can ever physically go higher than C5 because it "feels" at the very top of my nose. Even C5 can be a stretch musically, I sound ridiculous up there. Chest voice starts retreating fast around G#3.

On the low end, I can sometimes reach G1 in chest and for split seconds F#1. I tend to lose access to A1 and A#1 if I have swelling going on, but that's been improving. My voice is still in development (fairly new to singing and sorting out vocal strain issues).

The stars aligned the other day when I was trying to go lower than G1; I slipped into fry but rose in pitch and it came out as a subharmonic B0. I'll be summoning demons in no time.

[Steingrim]

Apr 12, 2023 0:27:47 GMT fox said:

A1 to C5.

Not sure if I can ever physically go higher than C5 because it "feels" at the very top of my nose. Even C5 can be a stretch musically, I sound ridiculous up there. Chest voice starts retreating fast around G#3.

On the low end, I can sometimes reach G1 in chest and for split seconds F#1. I tend to lose access to A1 and A#1 if I have swelling going on, but that's been improving. My voice is still in development (fairly new to singing and sorting out vocal strain issues).

The stars aligned the other day when I was trying to go lower than G1; I slipped into fry but rose in pitch and it came out as a subharmonic B0. I'll be summoning demons in no time.

So you have the first break at Ab3 and maybe the second at Db4 ? That would correspond to a bass according to this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passaggio#Male_voices_2

And then you're able to somehow reach a C5 in your chest voice - or is that falsetto ? How does singing a G4 work for you ?

[fox]

Apr 12, 2023 8:38:27 GMT Steingrim said:

So you have the first break at Ab3 and maybe the second at Db4 ? That would correspond to a bass according to this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passaggio#Male_voices_2

And then you're able to somehow reach a C5 in your chest voice - or is that falsetto ? How does singing a G4 work for you ?

The C5 is definitely head voice, G4 too. I can get good tone ('good' relative to the amount of practice) on G4, but not C5. But since I still have vocal strain issues sorting out I spend most of my available time much lower...

I'd say the primo passagio is in the space between G3 and Ab3 and the secondo is right on C4. I usually crack on C4 and can't seem to get any chest tone in it.

[Steingrim]

Apr 12, 2023 15:25:07 GMT fox said:

Apr 12, 2023 8:38:27 GMT Steingrim said:

So you have the first break at Ab3 and maybe the second at Db4 ? That would correspond to a bass according to this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passaggio#Male_voices_2

And then you're able to somehow reach a C5 in your chest voice - or is that falsetto ? How does singing a G4 work for you ?

The C5 is definitely head voice, G4 too. I can get good tone ('good' relative to the amount of practice) on G4, but not C5. But since I still have vocal strain issues sorting out I spend most of my available time much lower...

I'd say the primo passagio is in the space between G3 and Ab3 and the secondo is right on C4. I usually crack on C4 and can't seem to get any chest tone in it.

Singing over the break in chest voice will work much better with practice. I don't really think much about doing that, but it helps to know where one's passaggi are and I do notice that they are there when singing through that zone. I think you should focus on getting that right, being able to sing well in chest voice all the way up to D,E or F4 is a much greater asset than octave 1 chest notes. Listen to Gunther Emmerlich sing the old standard "In tiefen keller" from D2-D4, it's all chest voice. His low notes are excellent and so are his high notes. Since his placement is rather low, his D4 comes across as quite high.

[fox]

Apr 12, 2023 17:00:32 GMT Steingrim said:

Singing over the break in chest voice will work much better with practice. I don't really think much about doing that, but it helps to know where one's passaggi are and I do notice that they are there when singing through that zone. I think you should focus on getting that right, being able to sing well in chest voice all the way up to D,E or F4 is a much greater asset than octave 1 chest notes. Listen to Gunther Emmerlich sing the old standard "In tiefen keller" from D2-D4, it's all chest voice. His low notes are excellent and so are his high notes. Since his placement is rather low, his D4 comes across as quite high.

That's good advice, and wow, that man's voice is phenomenal, thanks for pointing him out. I've been focusing more recently on solidifying that G3 to C4 range, and will focus more extensively up higher than that when I can use my voice more often. I don't try to push things below B1 too much, just check in a bit each day. For my goals material-wise having a good A1 and hopefully G1 will make a lot of difference though.

[Steingrim]

Apr 13, 2023 19:28:15 GMT fox said:

Apr 12, 2023 17:00:32 GMT Steingrim said:

Singing over the break in chest voice will work much better with practice. I don't really think much about doing that, but it helps to know where one's passaggi are and I do notice that they are there when singing through that zone. I think you should focus on getting that right, being able to sing well in chest voice all the way up to D,E or F4 is a much greater asset than octave 1 chest notes. Listen to Gunther Emmerlich sing the old standard "In tiefen keller" from D2-D4, it's all chest voice. His low notes are excellent and so are his high notes. Since his placement is rather low, his D4 comes across as quite high.

That's good advice, and wow, that man's voice is phenomenal, thanks for pointing him out. I've been focusing more recently on solidifying that G3 to C4 range, and will focus more extensively up higher than that when I can use my voice more often. I don't try to push things below B1 too much, just check in a bit each day. For my goals material-wise having a good A1 and hopefully G1 will make a lot of difference though.

Gunther Emmerlich is a fairly low bass, but not a super low one. He sings B1 in a duet named Moldau something, but that note isn't as good as his D2. I'm sure he could go even a bit lower. Your voice may not be very different to his, although from that clip that you posted earlier I don't think that it's as dark - his is very dark even for a bass. Regarding your second passagio at C4, you ought to be able to sing several semitones above that, with practice.

[fox]

Apr 13, 2023 19:39:39 GMT Steingrim said:

Gunther Emmerlich is a fairly low bass, but not a super low one. He sings B1 in a duet named Moldau something, but that note isn't as good as his D2. I'm sure he could go even a bit lower. Your voice may not be very different to his, although from that clip that you posted earlier I don't think that it's as dark - his is very dark even for a bass. Regarding your second passagio at C4, you ought to be able to sing several semitones above that, with practice.

I'd wondered how much of his tone was purely down to the physical characteristics of his voice and how much was due to his operatic training (and possibly age). That clip definitely wasn't representative but I probably won't be as dark as him either way. Maybe in 20 years? lol

[Steingrim]

Apr 13, 2023 22:30:44 GMT fox said:

Apr 13, 2023 19:39:39 GMT Steingrim said:

Gunther Emmerlich is a fairly low bass, but not a super low one. He sings B1 in a duet named Moldau something, but that note isn't as good as his D2. I'm sure he could go even a bit lower. Your voice may not be very different to his, although from that clip that you posted earlier I don't think that it's as dark - his is very dark even for a bass. Regarding your second passagio at C4, you ought to be able to sing several semitones above that, with practice.

I'd wondered how much of his tone was purely down to the physical characteristics of his voice and how much was due to his operatic training (and possibly age). That clip definitely wasn't representative but I probably won't be as dark as him either way. Maybe in 20 years? lol

Tenor voices have a tendency to lower as they age. Basses, not much. My baritone voice has the same upper range that it had when I was 18 and I'm over twice that age now.

Hey fox, you could try singing "Take on me" by a-ha down one octave. Now the refrain starts at A1, makes a jump up to G#2-A2 and heads up to A3 with an E4 in falsetto at the top. The rest is approximately E2-F#3. Voiceplay has a short clip where Castellucci sings the bassline from A1 but he doesn't sing the solo part.

[Kreuger]

Tenor voices have a tendency to lower as they age. Basses, not much. My baritone voice has the same upper range that it had when I was 18 and I'm over twice that age now.

Maybe by the time I reach 40, Ill finally get into the first octave.

[Steingrim]

Apr 16, 2023 11:27:31 GMT Kreuger said:

Tenor voices have a tendency to lower as they age. Basses, not much. My baritone voice has the same upper range that it had when I was 18 and I'm over twice that age now.

Maybe by the time I reach 40, Ill finally get into the first octave.

It's called "that's the wrong octave" here. When a singer asks for some low note and gets something ending with a 1 from the piano player.

But if you can then you can. Which can be cool.