J.D. Sumner (18,503 views)

[RINGO]

John Daniel Sumner (19 November 1924 - 16 November 1998)
Member Of: The Blackwood Brothers (1955 - 1965), The Stamps (1965 - 1998), The Masters V (1980 - 1988)
Vocal Range: C1 - C♯4

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{Album Ranges}The Blackwood Brothers:
Hymn Sing (1956): B♭1 - F3
I'm Bound for That City (1957): B♭1 - G3
His Hands (1958): G1 - F3 -- tracks 4-12 unavailable
Stranger of Galilee (1959): B♭1 - F3
Paradise Island (1959): B♭1 - G3 -- tracks 1, 3-9, 11-12 unavailable
The Blackwood Brothers (1959): A1 - G3 -- not singing on tracks 3, 6-7, 10-11
Give the World a Smile (1959): G♯1 - F3 -- not singing on track 8
At Home with the Blackwoods (1959): F1 - C♯3 -- not singing on tracks 6, 9, 11
Beautiful Isle of Somewhere (1960): G♯1 - E♭3 -- tracks 3-6, 8-12 unavailable
Sunday Meetin' Time (1960): G♯1 - G3
The Pearly White City (1961): B♭1 - F3 -- tracks 2-3, 6-8, 10-11 unavailable
Precious Memories (1962): G♯1 - F3 -- tracks 1-6, 9-12 unavailable
The Blackwood Brothers Combine With The Statesmen to Wish You a Musical Merry Christmas (1962): B♭1 - E♭3 -- not singing on tracks 3, 5, 8, 10, 12
The Keys to the Kingdom (1962): F1 - G3 -- not singing on tracks 2-4, 8-10; track 7 unavailable

Significant High Notes:

C♯4 ("He'll Hold My Hand")
G3 ("Do You Know My Jesus?", "How Long Has It Been", "I Don't Care What the World May Do", "I Was There When It Happened", "Wonderful Love")
F♯3 ("I Don't Care What the World May Do")
F3 ("A Beautiful Life", "Give the World a Smile" 1959 version, "His Hands", "I Am a Pilgram", "I Shall Be at Home with Jesus", "I'm Bound for That City", "I'm Happy and Free", "If I Pray", "Jesus Is Mine", "Jesus Lifted Me", "Just a Little Talk with Jesus" 1960 version, "Lord, Keep Your Hand on Me", "The Pearly White City", "Sing Your Blues Away", "Stop and Pray", "Tell Someone About Jesus", "Way Down Deep in My Soul", "What a Friend", "Where No One Stands Alone")
E3 ("No Tears in Heaven", "The Workshop of the Lord")
E♭3 ("A Beautiful Life", "Childhood Memories", "Eternal Paradise", "Everyday Will Be a Sunday By and By", "He Knows Just How Much We Can Bear", "Heavenly Love", "How Long Has It Been", "I Can't Just Make It by Myself", "If I Pray", "It Took a Miracle", "Joy to the World", "Just a Closer Walk with Thee", "Just a Little Talk with Jesus" 1960 version, "Looking for a City", "O Come, All Ye Faithful", "The Old Rugged Cross", "The Pearly White City", "Praises to Our King", "Savior, Gently Take Me Home", "Shall I Crucify Him?", "Silver Bells", "Tell Someone About Jesus", "These Drops of Blood", "Walkin' and Talkin' with My Lord", "Way Down Deep in My Soul", "The Way of the Cross", "When I'm Alone", "Whispering Hope", "Who Is That?", "Wonderful Saviour")
D3 ("Give Me Strength to Stand", "God Made a Way" 1958 version, "He Lifted Me from Sin", "I Shall Be at Home with Jesus", "Jesus Lifted Me", "Life's Railway to Heaven", "My Saving King", "Stop and Pray", "Where Could I Go")
C♯3 ("Amazing Grace", "He's Everywhere", "His Hands", "I Don't Care What the World May Do", "I'm Free Again", "In My Father's House", "It Took a Miracle", "Joy to the World", "The Last Mile of the Way", "O Little Town of Bethlehem", "Shall I Crucify Him?", "The Stranger of Galilee", "Take a Look in the Book", "Way Down Deep in My Soul", "Whispering Hope", "The Workshop of the Lord")
C3 ("Childhood Memories", "Christ Is a Wonderful Savior", "Do You Know My Jesus?", "Farther Along", "He", "He Knows Just What I Need", "He Lifted Me from Sin", "I Am a Pilgram", "I Want to Be More Like Jesus", "I Will Lift Up Mine Eyes to the Hills", "I'm Happy and Free", "If I Pray", "Inside the Gate", "The King and I Walk Hand in Hand", "Lord, Keep Your Hand on Me", "My Saving King", "Stop and Pray", "There's a God Somewhere", "The Way of the Cross", "What a Homecoming Day", "Where Could I Go", "Where No One Stands Alone", "Without a Prayer", "Wonderful Love", "You Are the Finger of God")

Significant Low Notes:

E♭2 ("Aloha Time", "Amazing Grace", "Christmas Means Christ to Me", "Do You Know My Jesus?", "Everyday Will Be a Sunday By and By", "Give the World a Smile" 1959 version, "He Knows Just How Much We Can Bear", "Heavenly Love", "His Hands", "I Bowed My Knees and Cried Holy", "I Want to Be More Like Jesus", "I Wanta Go There", "I Was There When It Happened", "It Took a Miracle", "Jesus Is Mine", "Joy to the World", "Just a Closer Walk with Thee", "Just a Little Talk with Jesus" 1960 version, "Looking for a City", "Lord, Keep Your Hand on Me", "The Love of God", "A Mail Order from Heaven", "O Come, All Ye Faithful", "The Old Rugged Cross", "Over the Moon", "Paradise Island", "The Pearly White City", "Praises to Our King", "Silver Bells", "The Stranger of Galilee", "Sweet Peace", "Tell My Friends", "Tell Someone About Jesus", "There's One", "These Drops of Blood", "The Way of the Cross", "What a Friend", "What a Homecoming Day", "Who Is That?")
D2 ("Give Me Strength to Stand", "God Made a Way" 1958 version, "He Lifted Me from Sin", "The Last Mile of the Way", "My Saving King", "No Tears in Heaven", "Rock of Ages", "You Are the Finger of God")
C♯2 ("Amazing Grace", "Eternal Paradise", "Give the World a Smile" 1959 version, "He's Everywhere", "I Can't Just Make It by Myself", "I'm Free Again", "Way Down Deep in My Soul", "Whispering Hope", "Wonderful Saviour")
C2 ("A Beautiful Life", "Childhood Memories", "Farther Along", "Give Me Strength to Stand", "He Just Knows What I Need", "I Shall Be at Home with Jesus", "I Will Lift Up Mine Eyes to the Hills", "I'm Happy and Free", "Lord, Keep Your Hand on Me", "No Tears in Heaven", "O Holy Night", "Over the Moon", "Savior, Gently Take Me Home", "Sing, Be Happy", "Sing Your Blues Away", "Stop and Pray", "There's a God Somewhere", "Walkin' and Talkin' with My Lord", "What a Savior", "Where Could I Go", "Where No One Stands Alone", "Without a Prayer", "Wonderful", "You Are the Finger of God")
B1 ("Just a Little Talk with Jesus" 1960 version, "The Last Mile of the Way")
B♭1 ("A Beautiful Life", "Christ Is a Wonderful Savior", "Christmas Means Christ to Me", "Do You Know My Jesus?", "He Knows Just How Much We Can Bear", "How Long Has It Been", "I Am a Pilgram", "I'm Bound for That City", "I'm Free Again", "In My Father's House", "Just a Closer Walk with Thee", "Looking for a City", "Lord, Keep Your Hand on Me", "A Mail Order from Heaven", "Over the Moon", "Paradise Island", "Peace Like a River", "Peace of Mind", "Praises to Our King", "Savior, Gently Take Me Home", "Sing Your Blues Away", "The Stranger of Galilee", "Sunday Meetin' Time", "Sweet Peace", "Tell My Friends", "Walkin' and Talkin' with My Lord", "The Way of the Cross", "What a Friend", "What a Homecoming Day", "When God's Chariot Comes", "When I'm Alone", "Wonderful")
A1 ("God Made a Way" 1958 version, "If I Pray", "There's a God Somewhere")
G♯1 ("Eternal Paradise", "Give the World a Smile" 1959 version, "He's Everywhere", "I'm Free Again", "Way Down Deep in My Soul")
G1 ("God Made a Way" 1958 version, "There's a God Somewhere")

F1 ("When God's Chariot Comes", "Wonderful Love")

E1: "Amen", "A Beautiful Life", "God Made a Way", "He Means The World To Me", "I'm Telling the World About His Love", "Oh Happy Day, When Jesus Washed My Sins Away", "Poor Wayfaring Stranger", "There's a Light"
E♭1: "Anytime, Anywhere", "A Christmas Carol of Love", "For Jesus Is There", "I'm Gonna Keep on Singing" Live 1991, "Just a Little Talk with Jesus" Gaither Version, "Old Man River", "One By One", "Rainbow of Love" Original Stamps Version, "Turn Your Radio On", "Walk That Lonesome Road", "Why Me Lord"
D1: "Anytime, Anywhere", "God Made a Way"
C♯1: "Just a Little Talk With Jesus", "Rainbow of Love"
C1: "Blessed Assurance", "Tell Me the Story Again", "Way Down", "You'll Never Walk Alone"

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{Questionable Notes}E4 ("In That Land" ^[1])
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[1] marks yelps and short trills in high range or anacrusis and short dips in low range.
[2] marks notes of questionable identity that cannot be confirmed to be the singer in question.
[3] marks non-melodic notes that don't have a significant enough pitch to warrant inclusion.
[4] marks notes that possess uncertain pitch or have been pitch-shifted.
[5] marks notes that do not fit the previous criteria but are not of a substantial enough quality to warrant counting towards the singer's range.

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Blue marks falsetto or whistle notes.
Underlines mark notes that are obscured in the song mix.
Italics mark non-melodic notes.
Boldface marks notes that are considered to be particularly notable examples of this person's vocal capabilities.

[RINGO]

In the interest of showcasing research progress as it happens, I intend on posting in-progress threads into this section after a few albums have been notewatched and continue updating them as I progress through their discographies. Obviously the Sumner thread existed on both TRP2 and TRP3, but I decided to post my in-progress research of the thread rather than re-upload the old, very outdated/inaccurate research on the old thread.

[Hennessy Macklemore III]

Hey uhhh...what happened to his C♯4? Did it turn out to be someone else or something? :scratch:

[NJ]

Apr 24, 2020 7:55:46 GMT Hennessy Macklemore III said:

Hey uhhh...what happened to his C♯4? Did it turn out to be someone else or something?

Thread isn't finished yet. All his available material's being re-revised.

[iknownothing]

Surprisingly, Sumner sings an E♭1 in his Blackwood Brother days (I'm betting that's the lowest he went while in that group; it seems his ridiculously low stuff was later in his career), in "He Took My Troubles Off My Mind" (right at the end).

[md2002002]

Don’t think I’ve ever seen this before: respectable Eb1s here around 5:35 and 6:50 youtu.be/yl0MqKvLXvo

[Zedd Squared]

There's something quite wonderful about the phrase "respectable Eb1s" lol.

Also, what made you change your mind about the G0? I remember you saying it couldn't be counted because of how much you have to slow down the recording to make it out.

[kaji]

Seconding this. I clearly remember you saying that G0 is not countable and it's ehhh. Also those Eb1s md2002002 posted, damn good.

[BAZanine]

Mind you this is in WIP. A lot of this is reposted from TRP3, including the G0. Also those are E1s and will definitely be bolded whenever this thread gets to that point.

[RINGO]

The G0 was not added by me. Baronessa added it because people were raising a fuss about Sumner's full range not being listed on the thread. I've removed it and updated the range accordingly -- lest people forget, however, I am not updating my threads anymore, and anyone who tries to directly address me and get me to add notes to these threads would have just as much success talking to a brick wall. This thread was claimed by somebody else once upon a time, perhaps they'll eventually get around to posting some sort of update.

[Hennessy Macklemore III]

Why did you delete all the E1-C1 notes as well tho :scratch:

[md2002002]

Sept 5, 2020 23:21:29 GMT BAZanine said:

Mind you this is in WIP. A lot of this is reposted from TRP3, including the G0. Also those are E1s and will definitely be bolded whenever this thread gets to that point.

Personally I hear them as right between E and Eb so it’s sort of pot luck as to which comes up on a tuner when I hum it back 🤷‍♂️ If anyone would be willing to analyse it or something to provide a definitive answer that would be appreciated (unless my ears really are that bad)...

[BAZanine]

J.D. goes for that in basically every ‘70s Elvis concert. He can’t hear himself that low so sometimes it’s as high as F#1 and as low as D1 but he’s going for E1 and that’s what he gets in the mass majority of concerts. So that’s what should be counted imo.

[kaji]

I think the pitch whichever he does should be counted imo.

[ancient]

just to clarify, i'm the one that claimed JD Sumner's thread some months ago. i'm not having much time lately cuz job and college, but i'm planning to start working on this thread after fully updating Avi Kaplan's thread

[glo]

E1 at 4:00: youtu.be/aU4oMhncApc

[Hennessy Macklemore III]

Yeah he definitely has plenty of notes well below F1; not sure why they all got deleted from the OP

[mrrobot166]

What happened to the G0

[Hennessy Macklemore III]

It was deemed not countable by the thread OP, as can be seen in the discussion above. I would say it's worth still listing in the spoiler, but apparently he's not updating the thread anymore, so we can't really expect any updates until somebody else takes it over.

Allegedly somebody else has claimed the thread, but they must be taking their sweet time in taking it over if so, cause this outdated version of it has remained the default thread for a while now.

[mrrobot166]

Why Is there a c1 when it bottoms at f1

[BAZanine]

We know he has multiple C1s but this thread's research was started from scratch and in chronological order, meaning that RINGO didn't get to any C1s yet. Besides, you have him claimed, don't you?

[Hennessy Macklemore III]

I'm pretty sure there actually were C1s listed before, but then an admin edited in the G0 against RINGO 's will, and when he came back to delete that, I think he accidentally deleted all the rest of the notes below F1 as well. And because he's not updating any of his threads anymore, that's the state that the thread has remained in ever since.

So yeah, if you're planning on taking over this thread, I would recommend getting on that so we can fix this.

[Deleted]

Does anyone have the link to the E4 in “In That Land”?

[Hennessy Macklemore III]

I can't seem to find the song online anymore, but I remember what the note was like, and honestly I'd say it shouldn't even really be counted as a questionable note. It's pretty much just a crack and has no semblance of intention or control.

[Deleted]

Sounds like C#1 or C1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMN_w_PZ4xg&t=199s