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Patrick John Badger (July 22, 1967 - )

Years active: 1985-present

Country of origin: United States of America

Recorded vocal range: C♯2-A♯5 (D♭2-B♭5)

Band history:

1986-1996 - Extreme (bass, backing vocals)
1999-2000 - Super Trans Atlantic (bass)
2001-2003 - Tribe of Judah (bass)
2007-present - Extreme (bass, backing vocals)
2013 - Badger (lead vocals, bass)
2016-present - Nasty Ass Honey Badgers (lead vocals, bass)
2017-present - Dark Desert Eagles (lead vocals, rhythm guitar)

Recorded high notes:

A♯5/B♭5: "Play That Funky Music" live at Club Citta 1989

A5: "Play That Funky Music" live at Club Citta 1989

G♯5/A♭5: "Runnin' with the Devil" live at Bull Run Restaurant 2021

G5: "Heartache Tonight" live at the Hebron Harvest Fair 2019, "One of These Nights" live at the Hebron Harvest Fair 2019

G♯4/A♭4: "Baby Talk" live in Portugal 1987, "Beautiful Girls", "Better Off Dead", "Big Boys Don't Cry", "Carry on Wayward Son" live at Bettenfest Turkey Jam 2017, "Christmas Time Again", "Color Me Blind", "Decadence Dance" live at the House of Blues Boston 2009, "Don't Leave Me Alone", "Dragonfly", "Evil Queen", "Fair-Weather Faith", "Flesh 'n' Blood", "Free Fallin'" live at Bettenfest Turkey Jam 2017, "Funky Metal Holiday" live Portugal 1987, "He-Man Woman Hater", "Here's to the Losers", "Hole Hearted" live at the House of Blues Boston 2009, "It Won't Be Long" demo, "Keep Yourself Alive" live at Wembley Stadium 1992, "Kid Ego", "Li'l Jack Horny", "Little Girls", "Money (In God We Trust)", "Mutha (Don't Wanna Go to School Today)", "Never Be as Strong" demo, "Nice Place to Visit", "Other Side of the Rainbow", "Our Father", "Play That Funky Music" live at Club Citta 1989, "Play with Me", "Pour Some Sugar on Me" live at Bettenfest Turkey Jam 2017, "Rest in Peace", "Rise 'n' Shine", "Rock and Roll All Nite" live at Bettenfest Turkey Jam 2017, "Run", "Runnin' with the Devil" live at Bull Run Restaurant 2021, "Sex n' Love", "Simon Sez" demo, "Smoke Signals", "Star", "Sunrise", "Stop the World",s "Suzi (Wants Her All Day What?)", "Teacher's Pet" live in Portugal 1987, "There Is No God", "Time Will Tell", "Tragic Comic", "Warheads", "Watching, Waiting", "What Can I Say" demo, "When I'm President", "When It Rains"

Recorded low notes:

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*Blue marks soft falsetto notes.
*Bold marks noteworthy passages or performances.
*Italics marks non-melodic notes.
*Underlines marks notes sung in backing vocals/overdubs.

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{Album ranges}
Badger:

Time Will Tell (2014) - A2-D5-E♭5

Nasty-Ass Honey Badgers:

Take What We Want (2016) - C♯2-D3-D♯5

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{Detailed bio}
Though he is somewhat less talked about as a vocalist than the other two singing members of Extreme, Pat Badger is a very talented singer in addition to being a renowned bassist, whose high harmonies in Extreme give that band a big part of their signature sound. Outside of that, he also sings for his own solo band, The Nasty Ass Honey Badgers, as well as for a The Eagles tribute band called The Dark Desert Eagles, in which he also plays rhythm guitar in the caricature role of "Glenn Spry". Pat possesses a soulful, tonally pleasant voice with belty high notes for days - as evidenced by the sheer number of notes in the B♭4-D♭5 range that he frequently sings in Extreme harmonies and recreates at every concert with the band. Mid to upper fifth octave notes are somewhat less common for him, but every now and then he surprises us by wailing something super high that proves he certainly has at least some amount of controlled range in that register as well. Low notes are also fairly uncommon for him, but he has a decent amount of lower third octave singing, and very occasionally demonstrates second octave notes, though those are few and far between.

While Pat is widely recognized as the only bassist that Extreme has ever had, he was actually not a founding member of the band. There was actually a short-lived period of the band's early history in which Paul Mangone was their bassist in the first year of their existence, but Pat replaced him in 1986 and went on to become a member of the band's "classic" lineup - featuring himself on bass and backing vocals, Gary Cherone on lead vocals, Nuno Bettencourt on guitar, keyboards, and vocals, and Paul Geary on drums. This lineup lasted 1986 to 1994, and saw the release of three of the band's best-known albums - Extreme (1989), Pornograffitti (1990), and III Sides to Every Story (1992), launching them to international stardom in 1990 with the release of their best-known song "More Than Words". One of the most recognizable features about the band's sound was their use of vocal harmonies and call-and-response vocals - with many of their most famous songs being written around vocal interplay between Cherone, Nuno and Pat. Often times, Cherone would sing one line of a chorus, and Nuno and Pat would sing the next line in response, with Nuno always on the lower vocal harmonies and Pat always on the higher ones. Though Pat overall sang the least vocal parts of the three of them, he demonstrated an impressively consistent ability to sing into the upper fourth and lower fifth octave in his harmonies, sometimes singing higher than Cherone, and even singing as high as E5 in the backing vocals of "It('s a Monster)".

Extreme's fourth album, Waiting for the Punchline, was released in 1995 and featured a much more withdrawn arrangement for vocal harmonies than its predecessors. Unlike the previous three albums, this one was very much focused around Cherone's vocals, and only featured occasional backing vocal/harmony contributions from Nuno and Pat. Following the release of this album, the band broke up, and each of their members went separate ways - Cherone became the new frontman for Van Halen for three years, Nuno pursued his own solo career, and Pat took a break from music for a bit to instead turn his focus over to owning and operating an alpaca farm in Massachusetts. Ironically, he has been cited as the member of the band who had the most successful business ventures during this time, as both Cherone and Nuno's other musical pursuits ultimately flopped. Later on, however, Pat did return to the music industry and reunite with Cherone (along with Mike Mangini, who had been Extreme's drummer at the time of their breakup) in 2001, this time playing bass in the experimental industrial rock project Tribe of Judah. This band

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Henny Macc Moderator Offline Posts: 1,798 Likes: 1,724 Join Date: April 2020 Favourite singer: Steve	Pat Badger Jun 23, 2022 0:53:45 GMT rob likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Henny Macc on Jun 23, 2022 0:53:45 GMT Oh hey, an unexpected live second octave note! Sounds pretty solid too, though the audio quality makes it hard to figure out where it bottoms. I'm guessing maybe G2?

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Pat Badger Jun 23, 2022 1:06:23 GMT via mobile

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Jun 23, 2022 0:53:45 GMT Henny Macc said:

Oh hey, an unexpected live second octave note! Sounds pretty solid too, though the audio quality makes it hard to figure out where it bottoms. I'm guessing maybe G2?

I could be mistaken, but I hear it as a G# but it could definitely be G

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Pat Badger Jul 1, 2022 6:22:31 GMT

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I'm gonna go with G2. Listening to it slowed down to 50-75% makes the exact pitch a bit more discernible, and that's what I'm getting from it.

That concert ended up being quite worthwhile to notewatch, as I got quite a few more notes in the E3-C♯3 range from him, as well as a number of fifth octave falsettos including some range expansion up to G5! There's one other full Dark Desert Eagles concert uploaded on YouTube - I'll check it out at some point to see if there are any different songs or if he hits any different notes in it.

In the meantime, how do we feel about the notes here, at 2:39, and 3:45? I think I'm hearing something around F5 for most of them, I guess it could be countable as an italicized note?

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Pat Badger Jul 30, 2022 7:40:56 GMT

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Forgot to post this when I found it, but Pat got a nice range expansion! Plays a short joke cover of "Runnin' with the Devil" here doing the E5 scream at the beginning, which he then slides up to a surprisingly solid G♯5!

This thread should be finished soon, I just gotta finish checking the last of the live covers he did with Nuno Bettencourt, as well as a few Extreme B-sides and rare tracks that he did backing vocals on.

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Pat Badger Aug 1, 2022 4:39:58 GMT

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I've been going back and forth on it. I initially had them starting at G♯4, but then found some nice G4s in some of his Eagles covers, so I started retroactively adding in notes for that section after I had notewatched everything else lol. Still making up my mind if I'll be keeping them, but yeah his high range would still be quite well represented without them.

I do wish there were more lows to be found though :violin:

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Pat Badger Oct 20, 2022 6:33:54 GMT

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Just found this in a demo and oh god did I just find a C6 by him

Worse yet is that it sounds like the tape speed is a half step slow on this upload (especially since Extreme are notorious for using E♭ tuning rather than D tuning, which is what it sounds like here), so it might actually be a D♭6... :sweat:

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Pat Badger Oct 20, 2022 6:45:04 GMT

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Oct 20, 2022 6:33:54 GMT Henny Macc said:

Just found this in a demo and oh god did I just find a C6 by him

Worse yet is that it sounds like the tape speed is a half step slow on this upload (especially since Extreme are notorious for using E♭ tuning rather than D tuning, which is what it sounds like here), so it might actually be a D♭6... :sweat:

Yup, sounds like it, although still count it as C6 because we don't know if it actually is slow

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Oct 20, 2022 6:45:04 GMT Bink said:

Oct 20, 2022 6:33:54 GMT Henny Macc said:

Just found this in a demo and oh god did I just find a C6 by him

Worse yet is that it sounds like the tape speed is a half step slow on this upload (especially since Extreme are notorious for using E♭ tuning rather than D tuning, which is what it sounds like here), so it might actually be a D♭6... :sweat:

Yup, sounds like it, although still count it as C6 because we don't know if it actually is slow

Here's a different upload of it; I think this one is closer to the correct tape speed though it might be a hair fast.

1:44 and 2:47 actually sound like D6s... O_o and then yeah 2:54 sounds like a C♯6.

Anyone who's good at verifying tape speeds care to lend a hand here to be on the safe side? MrToddington Platypus

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Pat Badger Mar 21, 2023 7:33:00 GMT

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Post by Henny Macc on Mar 21, 2023 7:33:00 GMT

Gonna try to get this thread officially finished at long last, but could still use more opinions on the D6s listed above, as I never really reached a final verdict on that one.

I also revisited his C♯2 tonight and was reminded of how I was iffy about what to count that as, because I keep finding myself pitching it somewhere between D♯2. It's at 0:30 here on "going for the jugular VEIN". "juguLAR" gets down to a D♯2 and "VEin" seems to start on that pitch, but then slides down to C♯2 at the end of that word. I'm not sure if I should actually count the C♯2 or not, because on some listens it seems emphatic enough to be worth acknowledging, but then on others I start to think that I might be notewatching it too closely, and that I should just count the starting note and nothing else.
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I also noticed a really weird note right after that at 0:34 that I hadn't previously caught. Sounds like a slide up to an inhaled D♯6 or something? Or is it just a slide up to a shaky D♯5 with overtones? I really can't tell, but definitely would like to get more opinions on that as well if possible.

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