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Post by falsetokaiba on Sept 24, 2019 12:14:20 GMT
 Hans-Rolf Rippert (31 July 1931 - 27 February 2008) Years Active: 1954 - 2008 Vocal Range: F1 - A5 Significant High Notes: A5 (" The Nightingale") F♯5 (" The Legend of the Twelve Thieves" (1968 version)) F5 (" Ach Natascha", " Im Tiefen Keller", " The Little Bell") E5 (" Abendglocken" Live with Osipov Orchestra, " The Legend of the Twelve Thieves", " Mitschza Troika", " The Nightingale") D5 (" Kalinka" (from 'Best of Ivan Rebroff 2010')) C♯5 (" The Legend of the Twelve Thieves", " Still, Still") C5 (" Kalinka" (from 'Best of Ivan Rebroff 2010'), The Little Bell", " Poljuschko Polje") B4 (" Poljuschko Polje") B♭4 (" Along the Volga", " Still Still") A4 ("Havah Nagila", " The Little Bell") G♯4 ("Cavatina des Silva") G4 (" Along the Volga", "Otschi Tschornyje") F♯4 ("Otschi Tschornyje" "Ah, si j'étais riche") F4 ("Cavatina des Silva", "Im Tiefen Keller", " La chanson de Lara", "Notschenjka") E4 ("Ah, si j'étais riche", "Boublitschki", "Havah Nagila", "Kalinka" (From 'Best of Ivan Rebroff' 2010), "Stenka Rasin" (1968 version), "Vous qui faites l'endormie", "Wdol Po Piterskoj") E♭4 ("Ave Maria", "Coachman, Don't Drive the Horses So", "Cavatina des Silva", "Plaisir d'amour" D4 "Ach Natascha", "Barcarolle", "Der Weg von Petersburg nach Nowgorod", "Dew Gitari", "Im Tiefen Keller", "Kalinka" (From 'Best of Ivan Rebroff' 2010), "Katyusha", "The Legend of the Twelve Thieves", "Mitschza Troika", "Tsuchubtschik", "Vous qui faites l'endormie", "Wot Polk Paschol") C♯4 ("Ah, si j'étais riche", "La chanson de Lara", "Poj Zyganska", "Stenka Rasin" (1968 version), "Wdol Po Piterskoj") C4 ("Abendglocken" Live with Osipov Orchestra, "Along the Volga", "Ave Maria", "Barcarolle", "Coachman, Don't Drive the Horses So", "Dew Gitari", "El, Uch-Njem", "Havah Nagila", "Karobushka", "Katyusha", "La Paloma", "The Little Bell", "Matuschka", "Moscow Nights" (From 'Best of Ivan Rebroff' 2010) "Moldarian Suite", "The Nightingale", "Notschenjka", "Pad Moskovn' Je Veshera" (From 'La Paloma' 2008), "Poljuschko Polje", "Tsuchubtschik", "Wot Polk Paschol") B3 ("Ah, si j'étais riche", "La Paloma", "Mitschza Troika", "Pad Moskovn' Je Veshera" (From 'La Paloma' 2008), "Stenka Rasin" (1968 version), "Wdol Po Piterskoj") Significant Low Notes: A2 ("Along the Volga", "Boublitschki", "Dew Gitari", "Karobushka", "Katyusha", "La chanson de Lara", "La Paloma", "The Legend of the Twelve Thieves", "Matuschka", "Notschenjka", "Pad Moskovn' Je Veshera" (From 'La Paloma' 2008), "Poljuschko Polje", "Tsuchubtschik", "Vous qui faites l'endormie") G♯2 ("Ah, si j'étais riche", "Cavatina des Silva", "El, Uch-Njem", "The Little Bell", "Moscow Nights") G2 ("Ach Natascha", "Amazing Grace", "Ave Maria", "Boublitschki", "Coachman, Don't Drive the Horses So", "Der Weg von Petersburg nach Nowgorod", "Greensleeves", "La Paloma", "Poj Zyganska") F2 ("Ach Natascha", "Ave Maria", "Barcarolle", "Im Tiefen Keller", "The Little Bell", "Mitschza Troika", "Plaisir d'amour") E2 ("Abendglocken" Live with Osipov Orchestra, "Boublitschki", "Havah Nagila" (From 'La Paloma' 2008) "Karobushka", "The Legend of the Twelve Thieves", "Matuschka", "The Nightingale", "Otschi Tschornyje") E♭2 ("Cavatina des Silva", "Mitschza Troika", "Otschi Tschornyje", "Plaisir d'amour", "Stenka Rasin" (from 'Best of Ivan Rebroff 2010')) D2 ("Dew Gitari", "Katyusha" (From 'La Paloma' 2008)) C♯2 ("Still, Still") C2 ("Der Weg von Petersburg nach Nowgorod", "The Legend of the Twelve Thieves" (From 'La Paloma' 2008)) B1 ("Abendglocken" Live with Osipov Orchestra) G♯1 ("Still Still") G1 ("Der Weg von Petersburg nach Nowgorod") F♯1 ("Still Still") F1 (" Im Tiefen Keller") {Questionable Notes}
G5 "Der Weg von Petersburg nach Nowgorod" [2]
F5 "Katyusha" (From 'Best of Ivan Rebroff' 2010) [1]
E5 "Tsuchubtschik" [1]
F♯4 ""Poj Zyganska"" [1]
C♯2 "Ah, si j'étais riche" [1]
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[1] marks yelps and short trills in high range or anacrusis and short dips in low range.
[2] marks notes of questionable identity that cannot be confirmed to be the singer in question.
[3] marks non-melodic notes that don't have a significant enough pitch to warrant inclusion.
[4] marks notes that possess uncertain pitch or have been pitch-shifted.
[5] marks notes that do not fit the previous criteria but are not of a substantial enough quality to warrant counting towards the singer's range. {Albums Checked}Note I haven't listed album ranges as nearly all I could find of him were compendiums of tracks from different times- some song versions listed in the thread specify a year if he recorded the song in a different key at a different time or added different notes- the year comes from which compendium I found it on first.
Ivan Rebroff Sings Folk Songs From Old Russia (1968)
La Paloma (2008)
Best of Ivan Rebroff (2010) (unfinished, tracks 5-16)
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Blue marks falsetto notes.
Underlines mark notes that are obscured in the song mix.
Italics mark non-melodic notes.{Note: Alternative Song Titles}
(These are alternative titles for songs also listed on Spotify)
"Wdol Po Piterskoj" (Dans les rues de St-Petersburg)
"Otschi Tschornyje" (Les yeux noirs)
"El, Uch-Njem" (Les bataliers de la Volga)
"Dew Gitari" (Deux guitares)
"Poljuschko Polje" (Patrouille Cosaque)
"Der Weg von Petersburg nach Nowgorod" (La ruta de San Petersburgo a Novgorod)
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Post by Macca on Apr 5, 2022 2:23:50 GMT
Very Brief Eb1 That Could Go in The Questionable Notes
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Post by stelios06 on Jan 22, 2023 21:39:19 GMT
He goes well above an A5. Im trying to listen to all of his albums, I really enjoy him. I stumbled upon this: youtu.be/xw2s6-SUKoc?t=177Hes highest note in this (watch till the end) is a D#6 I dont know if there are effects or some pich work being done, but it is his voice. Also,I think I can slightly hear an E1 in the end of this: youtu.be/6JPUJFP_-EE?t=241Again, its his voice, you can hear the lip smacking at the end So, if both of these are allowed and true, I think we can say that he has a 5 octave range, hes missing one note to complete it (E6) but I think we all know he could or has done it. |
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Post by Macca on Jan 22, 2023 22:00:17 GMT
He goes well above an A5. Im trying to listen to all of his albums, I really enjoy him. I stumbled upon this: youtu.be/xw2s6-SUKoc?t=177Hes highest note in this (watch till the end) is a D#6 I dont know if there are effects or some pich work being done, but it is his voice. Also,I think I can slightly hear an E1 in the end of this: youtu.be/6JPUJFP_-EE?t=241Again, its his voice, you can hear the lip smacking at the end So, if both of these are allowed and true, I think we can say that he has a 5 octave range, hes missing one note to complete it (E6) but I think we all know he could or has done it. The Eb6 is definitely another singer. It doesn't sound remotely close to Ivans voice. The E1 in this case is probably just a low brass instrument. |
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Post by stelios06 on Jan 23, 2023 17:15:27 GMT
He goes well above an A5. Im trying to listen to all of his albums, I really enjoy him. I stumbled upon this: youtu.be/xw2s6-SUKoc?t=177Hes highest note in this (watch till the end) is a D#6 I dont know if there are effects or some pich work being done, but it is his voice. Also,I think I can slightly hear an E1 in the end of this: youtu.be/6JPUJFP_-EE?t=241Again, its his voice, you can hear the lip smacking at the end So, if both of these are allowed and true, I think we can say that he has a 5 octave range, hes missing one note to complete it (E6) but I think we all know he could or has done it. The Eb6 is definitely another singer. It doesn't sound remotely close to Ivans voice. The E1 in this case is probably just a low brass instrument. I dont know. I hear the same timber in the high notes as the timber Im used to. Listen to this: youtu.be/uG476e4P6q0?t=146 It has the same color. Also that E1 has the same vomit/monster/foghorn sound to it like his f#1 in still,still,still youtu.be/pQ2835Kv6hc?t=89 And in an interview he was asked if he has a 5 octave vocal range, and he said ''sometimes'' Here is a question and answer session with Ivan Rebroff, an international singing group - he sings in five octaves, seven languages and assorted styles and accents - who will perform folksongs Saturday night at Constitution Hall.
The reason there is only one question is that he also talks.
Q: Five oct aves
A: No. Sometimes. Only on holidays. Maria Callas - she was my neighbor when I was in 'Fiddler on the Roof' in Paris - she had four tones higher and four tones deeper than she sang on stage, but she said that is just for security, you must have something in reserve. I never use more than three-and-a-half, four octaves. When I was a boy, I sang in the St. Thomas boy's choir in Leipzig, boy soprano, and I never lost soprano. But when I was 13, 14, every week I had one more deeper note, and the next week, one more deeper, and I thought 'Where is this going to end'www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1977/12/03/rebroff-a-group-in-one/6d3e280e-00ce-4f85-bbd6-798edb41b4ff/Also, there's so much material, I dont think that people who have come up with his vocal range have listened to every single song he has made. I mean every year he was releasing at least 4 albums. The time stamps on the links didnt work, you have to blue mark them copy and paste them not just press them |
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Post by Macca on Jan 23, 2023 17:26:44 GMT
The timber in the two voices high range sounds a bit different to me. and the F#1 sounds very full and the E1 on the other hand still sounds like a brass instrument to me.
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Post by Steingrim on Jan 24, 2023 6:05:37 GMT
As much as I think yeah it could be him on the higher end, the E1 is undoubtedly a brass instrument. Yeah, the high notes are awesome. That would be quite a find. Just when everyone thought that the A5 was the one time that he broke his own rule of having several notes left in the tank, now he soars half an octave higher still. That Eb1 that he barely touches upon in some clip ought to have a corresponding counterpart. If people keep looking hard then I'm sure that they will come up with some song where he sang lush high octave 0 notes that didn't originate from a brass instrument or a double bass. |
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 5, 2023 23:35:06 GMT
As much as I think yeah it could be him on the higher end, the E1 is undoubtedly a brass instrument. Yeah, the high notes are awesome. That would be quite a find. Just when everyone thought that the A5 was the one time that he broke his own rule of having several notes left in the tank, now he soars half an octave higher still. That Eb1 that he barely touches upon in some clip ought to have a corresponding counterpart. If people keep looking hard then I'm sure that they will come up with some song where he sang lush high octave 0 notes that didn't originate from a brass instrument or a double bass. I still think the E1 is his. You can hear a lip smack in the end. Why would it be there if he had stopped singing? Maybe you guys dont agree because its too clear and has 0 fry? Well yeah thats a good argument, but maybe he could do an E1 clearly ,unlike the Eb1 which in my opinion shouldnt even be counted. Maybe in the studio he could. Idk, I think the lip smack is almost guarantee |
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Post by Homelander on Feb 6, 2023 1:12:37 GMT
I think the F1 should definitely be bold.
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 6, 2023 10:53:21 GMT
Yeah, the high notes are awesome. That would be quite a find. Just when everyone thought that the A5 was the one time that he broke his own rule of having several notes left in the tank, now he soars half an octave higher still. That Eb1 that he barely touches upon in some clip ought to have a corresponding counterpart. If people keep looking hard then I'm sure that they will come up with some song where he sang lush high octave 0 notes that didn't originate from a brass instrument or a double bass. I still think the E1 is his. You can hear a lip smack in the end. Why would it be there if he had stopped singing? Maybe you guys dont agree because its too clear and has 0 fry? Well yeah thats a good argument, but maybe he could do an E1 clearly ,unlike the Eb1 which in my opinion shouldnt even be counted. Maybe in the studio he could. Idk, I think the lip smack is almost guarantee J D Sumner manages an Eb1 with no noticeable rattle at about 3:00 in "old man river". If someone can find lower than that, that amounts to a clear note that's sung solo, then no problem. |
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 14, 2023 21:35:30 GMT
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 15, 2023 22:42:08 GMT
Multiple ones too. It's a bit like Frank Sinatra's C5 with laughs from the audience, he's not really trying to sing well. It's more of a stunt. At least he has figured out how to look like an operatic soprano.  I'm not saying that the note itself is bad. I dont know if its been pre recorded or not though. I mean doing an A#5 staccato? I dont know i think maybe something has been done. |
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 16, 2023 7:40:24 GMT
Multiple ones too. It's a bit like Frank Sinatra's C5 with laughs from the audience, he's not really trying to sing well. It's more of a stunt. At least he has figured out how to look like an operatic soprano. I'm not saying that the note itself is bad. I dont know if its been pre recorded or not though. I mean doing an A#5 staccato? I dont know i think maybe something has been done. He's sort of pushing his way up to the note, so it's not that difficult if he can reach it at all. My mezzo-soprano friend sang some Disney song up to Bb5 that way, she doesn't usually go that high but it worked for that passage. |
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Post by kaji on Feb 16, 2023 21:52:39 GMT
Multiple ones too. It's a bit like Frank Sinatra's C5 with laughs from the audience, he's not really trying to sing well. It's more of a stunt. At least he has figured out how to look like an operatic soprano.  I'm not saying that the note itself is bad. I don't think comparing these Bb5s to Frank's C5 is fair. Frank's C5 was... of a far worse quality to say the least. |
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 17, 2023 7:49:50 GMT
Multiple ones too. It's a bit like Frank Sinatra's C5 with laughs from the audience, he's not really trying to sing well. It's more of a stunt. At least he has figured out how to look like an operatic soprano. I'm not saying that the note itself is bad. I don't think comparing these Bb5s to Frank's C5 is fair. Frank's C5 was... of a far worse quality to say the least. Ivan's falsetto Bb5 is much better, but if you watch the entire sequence it's pretty clear that he's messing around to begin with. That is pure entertainment, and he's going for it. Within reason, of course. |
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 17, 2023 17:00:12 GMT
Another huge find. I don't think anyone can argue that this isn't Ivan, the timber is the same and it doesnt sound like a woman. I don't deny that there could be some pitching up or something, but no one can know.
Edit: It is entirely possible that Ivan knew of the whistle register, and could do it that way. Cause if this is not pitched up, he's definitely not using regular falsetto
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 17, 2023 17:20:02 GMT
Another huge find. I don't think anyone can argue that this isn't Ivan, the timber is the same and it doesnt sound like a woman. I don't deny that there could be some pitching up or something, but no one can know. www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Lop2ROuMIEdit: It is entirely possible that Ivan knew of the whistle register, and could do it that way. Cause if this is not pitched up, he's definitely not using regular falsetto How would we know that that is Ivan Rebroff ? The Bb5 is from a video, your new D6 from some old record could be literally anyone. The fact that some people would like it to be Ivan Rebroff doesn't mean that it is. |
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Post by Homelander on Feb 17, 2023 17:27:13 GMT
Okay but why do you have to be so snarky about it? I don't think he was being snarky about it. I think he was just explaining his viewpoint. |
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