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Post by Steingrim on Feb 19, 2023 15:44:54 GMT
Here's a clip that isn't on the list : Here he sings beautifully all the way from a chest E2 to a falsetto E5. The B1s in the background are sung by an oktavist. Its funny actually, he uses the same ending in a lot of his songs. Like this one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtuX1xs2yKA (amazing vocal range show off btw you should listen to the whole thing) Lots of chest E2s in the song, it seems to be a staple note of his. I feel that he has the weight to make that sound like he is a bass, though he's not really. A few semitones lower and it doesn't work quite that well. The song ends on an F5, which he handles well enough. How would we know that that is Ivan Rebroff ? The Bb5 is from a video, your new D6 from some old record could be literally anyone. The fact that some people would like it to be Ivan Rebroff doesn't mean that it is. Also, yes, there have been female singers in his songs, but its always just background vocals, and never, again, NEVER in the intro of a song. How do you know ? |
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 19, 2023 18:38:39 GMT
Its funny actually, he uses the same ending in a lot of his songs. Like this one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtuX1xs2yKA (amazing vocal range show off btw you should listen to the whole thing) Lots of chest E2s in the song, it seems to be a staple note of his. I feel that he has the weight to make that sound like he is a bass, though he's not really. A few semitones lower and it doesn't work quite that well. The song ends on an F5, which he handles well enough. Also, yes, there have been female singers in his songs, but its always just background vocals, and never, again, NEVER in the intro of a song. How do you know ? Well, I just finished listening to all of the albums, and every song I could find. I have a general idea of how he does things. I have posted two songs here with him in the 6th octave, and just because its without video you keep denying everything. Theres not a lot of him out there like I said, ive seen people in comments on youtube making insane claims, like how he almost never used a mic live, how he could sing in the 6th octave like and crazy stuff like that. I cant tell you whats right. But, when so much of a song is occupied by high singing, its never someone else. Its always him. Again, he brought in women in small time segments, when he did some simple harmonies and such like in "La paloma" or hes later work when he got older and he did a lot of choir stuff. The only other instance was when he was doing actual collabs with women, which there are also videos of. And lastly, i know im repeating myself, he has stated he can do 5 octaves. And thats all I have to say. I cant imagine how many claims of insane notes are done on this forum that people dont even argue about when there are very possible there are by someone else. I dont understand why him going a few semitones higher is so insane. By the way, this is off topic, but for anyone interested im going to have an interview with a good friend of his in skopelos, which is the place he lived on. Hes also a musician he might have some more info about his singing |
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Post by Goober on Feb 19, 2023 19:36:18 GMT
This thread has been really popular recently. He must be a very good singer!
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 20, 2023 20:26:45 GMT
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Post by Goober on Feb 20, 2023 21:14:05 GMT
I wouldn't count it
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 20, 2023 21:57:41 GMT
This thread has been really popular recently. He must be a very good singer! This thread was kind of dead, I think its good to bring some traction into it. And really, I wish Ivan was more well known. To me he kind of falls into the same category as demis roussos and nana moskourh. Many languages, unique vocals, and really famous in Russia. They're all very similar in a way. www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6rQ3DgFehw A lot of A1 singing ( more like talking) Another not so good a1 youtu.be/so6Otcxn0kA?t=64 |
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 21, 2023 22:32:05 GMT
The whole section from 0:59 and on is sung in strohbass, also called "vocal fry". He's very good at it, the A1 is a very decent fry note. He's basically a bass baritone (which describes his M1 register) with extensive and well developed M0 and M2 registers. How about this for a thread pic ? His vocal fry is very good. So good that many channels list his f1 as a chest note. But, when his speaking (he puts a shit ton of character in his voice when he's talking as well) he goes really really down with no noticeable fry youtu.be/hrm7QZR47HI?t=734youtu.be/09Kf0yYBRqQ?t=56 |
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Post by kaji on Feb 21, 2023 23:46:18 GMT
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 22, 2023 8:26:20 GMT
The whole section from 0:59 and on is sung in strohbass, also called "vocal fry". He's very good at it, the A1 is a very decent fry note. He's basically a bass baritone (which describes his M1 register) with extensive and well developed M0 and M2 registers. How about this for a thread pic ? His vocal fry is very good. So good that many channels list his f1 as a chest note. But, when his speaking (he puts a shit ton of character in his voice when he's talking as well) he goes really really down with no noticeable fry youtu.be/hrm7QZR47HI?t=734youtu.be/09Kf0yYBRqQ?t=56In the two last clips he changes registers after his hickup, from F2 and down it's vocal fry. His A1s are good as usual, the G1s are not that great and the F1 from "In Tiefen Keller" is obscured by the orchestra. But rattle doesn't set in that much until he goes for the Eb1 in the last clip. There are some chest C2s earlier in the video. |
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 22, 2023 13:55:11 GMT
His vocal fry is very good. So good that many channels list his f1 as a chest note. But, when his speaking (he puts a shit ton of character in his voice when he's talking as well) he goes really really down with no noticeable fry youtu.be/hrm7QZR47HI?t=734youtu.be/09Kf0yYBRqQ?t=56In the two last clips he changes registers after his hickup, from F2 and down it's vocal fry. His A1s are good as usual, the G1s are not that great and the F1 from "In Tiefen Keller" is obscured by the orchestra. But rattle doesn't set in that much until he goes for the Eb1 in the last clip. There are some chest C2s earlier in the video. You should listen to the f1 in the original studio recording of in tiffen keller, its longer, cleaner, and theres a segment where the orchestra is almost faded out but hes voice is still there
Also, I disagree with the g1. I think he does it great. Listen to this:
Its a different version from the ones you find in vocal range videos and the one on this forum. Its really stable, especially for holding it for so long. |
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 22, 2023 19:22:10 GMT
Did you find this from my comment on youtube? Wayy better A5, I wonder why the maker of the list here isnt putting these notes were saying |
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Post by Goober on Feb 22, 2023 19:58:51 GMT
If it does.
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Post by Tetra on Feb 24, 2023 13:51:12 GMT
The timber in the two voices high range sounds a bit different to me. and the F#1 sounds very full and the E1 on the other hand still sounds like a brass instrument to me.  |
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 24, 2023 18:51:53 GMT
i heard ivan rebroff was such a powerful singer he could break a wineglass just by punching it So..what is he doing here ?  I'll offer som guesses : 1) He is trying to break the bowl by singing C6 at 100 decibels. 2) He's going to head butt it to pieces, for a change 3) He's going to try to fit his head into it so he can grab the gold fish with his teeth 4) Same as 3), then drink the wine, then break the bowl from the inside with a C6. |
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Post by Tetra on Feb 24, 2023 19:48:57 GMT
i heard ivan rebroff was such a powerful singer he could break a wineglass just by punching it So..what is he doing here ? View AttachmentI'll offer som guesses : 1) He is trying to break the bowl by singing C6 at 100 decibels. 2) He's going to head butt it to pieces, for a change 3) He's going to try to fit his head into it so he can grab the gold fish with his teeth 4) Same as 3), then drink the wine, then break the bowl from the inside with a C6. maybe he just got really excited by the bowl |
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Post by Steingrim on Feb 24, 2023 20:02:05 GMT
So..what is he doing here ? View AttachmentI'll offer som guesses : 1) He is trying to break the bowl by singing C6 at 100 decibels. 2) He's going to head butt it to pieces, for a change 3) He's going to try to fit his head into it so he can grab the gold fish with his teeth 4) Same as 3), then drink the wine, then break the bowl from the inside with a C6. maybe he just got really excited by the bowl By the bowl ? Well it's not exactly a Ming. |
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Post by stelios06 on Feb 27, 2023 21:31:56 GMT
youtu.be/TMeYygK0Q2c?t=122Can anyone tell what technique he's using here? And may I say how uncomfortable it is singing this high as a bass? (or low baritone whatever he is)
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Post by kaji on Feb 28, 2023 0:14:49 GMT
youtu.be/TMeYygK0Q2c?t=122Can anyone tell what technique he's using here? And may I say how uncomfortable it is singing this high as a bass? (or low baritone whatever he is) Sounds like a pretty narrowed chest voice. The audio mixing makes it sound lighter than it is. Also, for a bass - it is very high but with enough practice should be doable. For a trained baritone should be a fairly comfortable range. |
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