John Lennon (70,001 views)

[Macca]

there's a pretty boldworthy G4 in the unnumbered mix second version of got to get you into my life

[Osmosis]

I'm presuming you meant for this to be on Paul's thread? If so I agree about bolding those. There are also some C#5s at the end of the song there, good stuff.

[Macca]

But The G4 I Linked Sounds Like John

[Osmosis]

Ah right, tbh I don't think it is particularly remarkable. I skipped around the video in case you meant a different G4 and I stumbled G4s that Paul does earlier in the song at 1:15. Those shouuld be bolded on his thread. I guess you could bold John's G4 but I think he's done much more powerful ones on other songs that haven't been given bold status yet.

[Osmosis]

Rather strong E2 here at the end of this performance of "Julia". I'm not sure where this rendition comes from from specifically

[Songwrithropist]

Silly question, I wondered for a while. Can someone tell me what's the key of "Anna"? And if it's D then does John intentionally sing it off pitch or what's going on there. He has a bunch of notes sung not falling into the D Major but most apps claim the song is in D?

[tim]

Useful way to determine many songs' key is to peck a keyboard while the song is playing, out-of-key notes are rather obvious! You'll often end up with 7 notes that fit - there's your key. However, many Beatles songs have subtle implied key changes, often through borrowed chords, so you'll have to find a passage where there is no out-of-key movement. Or just work out the last chord in any song, it's surprising how often that's the tonic of the key!

[senatorsenpai]

Nov 28, 2022 8:33:07 GMT Songwrithropist said:

Silly question, I wondered for a while. Can someone tell me what's the key of "Anna"? And if it's D then does John intentionally sing it off pitch or what's going on there. He has a bunch of notes sung not falling into the D Major but most apps claim the song is in D?

No John does not sing it off pitch! The song is flat of the usual A = 440 Hz tuning, that means it's up to interpretation if it's in D or C♯.

[Songwrithropist]

Nice, I wouldn't notice, couldn't really tell. Doesn't seem like it, he sounds a bit flatter than the tuning, especially during those C#3s "Go with him", sounds like it shoulda been D3s but anyway, he still sounds so good and convincing regardless of the exact pitches, you can't fake it.

[Bink]

Ok y'all's so I was looking over some potential threadpics for Lennon here, and I was wondering what does everyone think of em

[Baronessa]

Dec 9, 2022 10:45:20 GMT Bink said:

I like these two.

[Osmosis]

2nd one of the two thread pics you have quoted is better. Who is going is going to be updating this thread going forward?

['S]

I agree that the second one there is best. As far as updates go, Baz and any other Beatles-enjoying staff that are interested can do that, then again I'm not sure there's much to update the thread with anyway. No new material as far as I can tell.

[Osmosis]

Here is everything that has not yet been added to the thread that has been found by other users:

A4s “I’m Down” Live version (Dead link)
C#5, G#4s “Born in a Prison” 
F2s “Stranger in my Arms” youtu.be/1CCyA90ZZJw?t=75
E2 in “Julia” youtu.be/bgylB7SSrkU?t=172
E2, B2s in “Down in Cuba”
A4, Eb5 “Ticket to Ride” youtu.be/93HYF8uuT3s?t=5227
A2 “Norwegian Wood” youtu.be/hRZqlsYg9SY
G#4, C#5s, Eb5 “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer” youtu.be/n4oHtDWU1Hw?t=46
Eb2 “Tomorrow Never Knows” youtu.be/qXUm4lAA4ac?t=203
F#4s, A4s “Real Love” youtu.be/6JyId1YpEsc

Questionable F#2 "Good Day Sunshine" youtu.be/R9ncBUcInTM?t=84 

Granted none of it is range expanding, but there are still a good amount of notes here.

[Macca]

Are the A6's in don't let me down overtones?

[Bink]

Dec 15, 2022 1:41:00 GMT Macca said:

Are the A6's in don't let me down overtones?

Yes

[Subterranean Homesick Ålien]

I gotta leave my two favorite Lennon pics. 

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Is the C6 really that countable? I get it, you want John to have the same range as Macca, but really? Coincidentally, there's a slightly obscured C♯6 later in the song that is much more countable in my opinion.


I also noticed that the indicators in the Questionable Notes section were specifically designed so as to not exclude random yelps like this. Many of the bolds also seem somewhat arbitrary to me, and genuinely boldable notes (such as this B♭4) are not distinguished. In my opinion, this thread needs a major remake by an objective third party, not someone who clearly favours Lennon and seeks to stretch his countable range by whatever means possible.

Sorry if I sound overly critical, but I don't think the thread is very adequate in its current state.

[Osmosis]

Was perusing youtube the other day and came across a series of demos from John Lennon on this channel the spectacular spider-guy. I think a lot of the instruments might be fan overdubs but I think they are legit in the main. 

I think this 'I'm Losing You' demo is perhaps a half tone too fast and if so, there is a new countable A2. Otherwise, the notes are as follows:

• Not for Love, Nor Money - Bb2, G#2
• Many Rivers to Cross - G4
• I'm Losing You - G#4, Bb4 - Bb2
• Whatever Happened To (fantastic song) - G#2
• Mr Hyde's Gone - G4 - B2
• I'm The Greatest - some serious A4s and a C5
• (Forgive Me) My Little Flower Princess - D3
• Say It Again - B4 - C#3

There's another set of demos I will list later on. 

Edit: Here's the other list

• India India - F#4
• Now and Then - G#4, B4
• Memories - A4
  
• Mungo Jungo - A2, G2
• Gone From This Place - C#3
• She's a Friend of Dorothy - G4
• Memories (II) - A4
• The Happy Rishikesh Song/Something's Wrong - A4 - C3, ?? (can't pitch this)
• My Life - G4
• Growing Old With Me - G4

There's also this performance of 'I Saw Her Standing' with Elton John at MSG in 1974.
G#4s, A4s, C#5s and E5s

[rootyrootz]

When did the Mr. Moonlight Bb4 get unbolded!? That's like my fav note of his lol

[EddieCheivz]

I got nice findings here :D

Nice sustained G2, even could be a option for a bold!


Another good sustained note, a solid F2 singing "Happy Christmas" from The Beatles' Seventh Christmas Record, 1969


Some G2s through, for example at 4:20 and at the timestamp, where I also hearing going for a controlled D2 too from this very different version of "Yesterday"! The Beatles Third Christmas Record 1965


E♭2 from the Esher demo of "Polythene Pam"


Probably a D2 that after going to a strong E2 from Esher demo of "Dear Prudence"


Potent G4 singing "Happy Chrsitmas" from The Beatles Third Christmas Record, 1965

[Osmosis]

Sept 30, 2019 1:15:36 GMT Holsety said:

 "Mr. Moonlight"

Thank the lord 

[Subterranean Homesick Ålien]

In Get Back, when they’re Demoing “Gimme Some Truth”. John hits a good A4 (I believe).
youtu.be/lq8oT2BJgO0?t=11s

[Macca]

I'm hearing an E5 during the fadeout of "Only People" but it sounds like an E4 that cracks up an entire octave

[queenfan11]

I think the G#4s in "Anna (Go to Him)" are actually A4s. The tape speed seems slightly slow.