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[Setzer]

The long awaited song The General has been leaked (it was supposed to have been released today as a vinyl B-side, but said vinyl has been delayed until early December).
The song 'Monsters' has also leaked. It's got some pretty brutal vocals at one point, very cool :D

[Osmosis]

F#2

Oct 27, 2023 20:21:58 GMT Setzer said:

The long awaited song The General has been leaked (it was supposed to have been released today as a vinyl B-side, but said vinyl has been delayed until early December).
The song 'Monsters' has also leaked. It's got some pretty brutal vocals at one point, very cool :D

Been away for a few days and so I'm gutted I missed this leak. Looks like the songs have been stripped from youtube

[Setzer]

Oct 27, 2023 20:21:58 GMT Setzer said:

The long awaited song The General has been leaked (it was supposed to have been released today as a vinyl B-side, but said vinyl has been delayed until early December).
The song 'Monsters' has also leaked. It's got some pretty brutal vocals at one point, very cool :D

Would anyone be up for notewatching these two tracks? I tried reaching out to Alex, but with no luck.

[blazejecar2]

Gladly, but I can't find those songs anywhere. All I can find are live versions of the general and a really old demo from 9 years ago

[Osmosis]

I can notewatch them when I get home tomorrow

[Osmosis]

Sorry for the delay, but here's what I have Setzer, blazejecar2:

• Monsters - D2 - A4 F5 F#5 (right at the end of the song)
• The General - D3 - C#5 Eb5 F5

There's maybe a low or something I'm missing in The General but I think that's it.

[Alex61]

Dec 1, 2023 22:29:33 GMT Setzer said:

Oct 27, 2023 20:21:58 GMT Setzer said:

The long awaited song The General has been leaked (it was supposed to have been released today as a vinyl B-side, but said vinyl has been delayed until early December).
The song 'Monsters' has also leaked. It's got some pretty brutal vocals at one point, very cool :D

Would anyone be up for notewatching these two tracks? I tried reaching out to Alex, but with no luck.

I have been busy at present and had it on my docket to do this, my apologies working life is so hard.

I’ll get onto updating this + my other threads over the weekend!

[blazejecar2]

Dec 6, 2023 18:30:19 GMT Osmosis said:

Sorry for the delay, but here's what I have Setzer, blazejecar2:

• Monsters - D2 - A4 F5 F#5 (right at the end of the song)
• The General - D3 - C#5 Eb5 F5

There's maybe a low or something I'm missing in The General but I think that's it.

The general also has what sounds like faint D2s on the word "sorry" in both verses. Didn't spot anything else outside of this.

The monsters low sections might get lower than D2 but it's really hard to tell with all the effects

[Osmosis]

Dec 14, 2019 6:27:21 GMT blazejecar2 said:

What about stuff like the Locomotive Eb6 whistle youtu.be/NAxwmaCDYcI?t=395 or his high whistle screams like get in the ring youtu.be/Z2QCORi-u0U?t=242 , he has a bunch of those, they could at the very least be in the questionable section since he was doing this pretty often in the old days

Coming back to this, I know "Estranged" was addressed but how come this note in "Get In the Ring" isn't in the thread? It is at 4:15. A6?






Not sure on the pitching for this, maybe around an F#5? Quality is garbage, there's another slightly more listenable version of the same clip posted by this other user, the above video was just to help people see the context the note is within (what Axl is doing):

SPOILER: Click to show

{Addressed Notes}
G5

E5 in this early version of Ain't Going Down

youtu.be/7A9V35vRlNE?feature=shared&t=81 


Edit: C#3 in the backing vocals of "Better" youtu.be/Z1RPpvjVSGs?feature=shared&t=120

Edit 2:
"Indiana Ain't My Kinda Town" 1985 - D3s and D5s




That's it out now. I hear what you are talking about, I wasn't actually sure if they were from a voice. I actually think the notes are Eb2s rather than D2s.

[Osmosis]

Dec 13, 2019 14:42:18 GMT Alex61 said:

SPOILER: Click to show

A5 ("Cold Hard Cash"^[3], "The Garden"^[1][2][4])
C♯2 ("The Garden"^[5])
...................................................................
1. Questionable representivity.
2. Questionable octave.
3. Questionable legitimacy (pitch-shifting).
4. Possibly inhaled.
5. Questionable identity.
...................................................................
Questionable notes are any notes of questionable significance. In short, this spoiler acknowledges notes that I am aware exist, but do not want to contribute to the singer's range. These involve (but are not limited to) notes of questionable identity, notes of questionable legitimacy and notes of significantly poor quality.

SPOILER: Click to show

Okay, so I think I have figured out the pitch of the cold hard cash demo. The highest note is actually a G5. Hear me out.

There are two versions of this song on the internet right now - a live version dated 1984 and a demo, some say is 1983 some say 1984. The live version is undoubtedly in E standard in the key of Bm. This pitching sounds right for axl's voice and the guitars weren't detuned to Eb until 1986 so we know the guitars are definitely in E standard.

Then we have the original posting of the demo 14 years ago. This is in the key of Bbm, which as I said, is not right when compared to the live version. Axl's voice sounds too low and the whole tape is slow. 
Another youtuber noticed this and left a comment on one of the reposts saying that the tape is too slow. So what they did was reposted it a year later but increased the speed by 3 semitones.to C#m..
This is 2 semitones too high when you compare it with the live version.  This version was reposted 2 years ago by someone else and is the version I first came across and took it at face value. 

I have run both the live version and the demo through audacity and pitched the demo down to match the live version and it sounds bang on the money. This therefore means that the high note is a G5. Not a G#5 and not an A5 as I initially thought. 

I would love to hear what people think of this. 




Also, here are some new notes to add :)

• "I Used to Love Her" - Consant F5s and a run down that definitely gets an F2 but I think just squeezes out an Eb2 near the end.
• "I Feel Good" - Eb5 in 2006 and C#5s in the 2017 versions (loads)
• "Light My Fire" - C#5 in 2006

Another new find:

• "Think About You" - Straight F#5 in the mystic studios 1985 demo

[Hennessy Macklemore III]

Here's something I wasn't really expecting...


B♭4s at 1:30, D♭5 at 1:42, E♭5s at 2:14 (and every chorus), and an F5 at 5:00. Shame the tone sounds like Dr. Rockso from Metalocalypse all the way through lol

[Kreuger]

Jun 5, 2024 4:07:14 GMT Hennessy Macklemore III said:

Here's something I wasn't really expecting...


B♭4s at 1:30, D♭5 at 1:42, E♭5s at 2:14 (and every chorus), and an F5 at 5:00. Shame the tone sounds like Dr. Rockso from Metalocalypse all the way through lol

I do cocaine!

[VocalDudeGuy]

A5

Edit: Hol up, is this the G#5 welcome to the jungle? If it is I didn't know this scream could be considered part of the song

[Osmosis]

That is indeed the note listed on the thread.

[Setzer]

Jun 5, 2024 4:07:14 GMT Hennessy Macklemore III said:

Here's something I wasn't really expecting...


B♭4s at 1:30, D♭5 at 1:42, E♭5s at 2:14 (and every chorus), and an F5 at 5:00. Shame the tone sounds like Dr. Rockso from Metalocalypse all the way through lol

All those notes sound like ass

[EddieCheivz]

I think the time to replace the thread image has come

[mushymarionette]

Jun 12, 2024 22:17:14 GMT Setzer said:

Jun 5, 2024 4:07:14 GMT Hennessy Macklemore III said:

Here's something I wasn't really expecting...


B♭4s at 1:30, D♭5 at 1:42, E♭5s at 2:14 (and every chorus), and an F5 at 5:00. Shame the tone sounds like Dr. Rockso from Metalocalypse all the way through lol

All those notes sound like ass

Definitely not his greatest vocal moment. The Brian Johnson material suits his voice so much better, this snippet sounds amazing:

[mushymarionette]

Here's my personal top 10 studio performances list for Axl I worked on for a while after revisiting his discography, I've grown to appreciate his vocal performances on 'Chinese Democracy' a lot over the years.

TOP 10 STUDIO PERFORMANCES OF AXL ROSE

1. There Was a Time
2. Scraped
3. Sweet Child o Mine
4. If the World
5. Better
6. Welcome to the Jungle
7. This I Love
8. Coma
9. You Could Be Mine
10. Rocker (Demo)

[hon. mention to "Shackler's Revenge"]

[Osmosis]

Jun 24, 2024 23:40:49 GMT mushymarionette said:

Jun 12, 2024 22:17:14 GMT Setzer said:

All those notes sound like ass

Definitely not his greatest vocal moment. The Brian Johnson material suits his voice so much better, this snippet sounds amazing:

It sounds so good because it was 8 years ago - his 5th octave has been unusable for a while now.

[mushymarionette]

Jun 27, 2024 14:00:46 GMT Osmosis said:

Jun 24, 2024 23:40:49 GMT mushymarionette said:

Definitely not his greatest vocal moment. The Brian Johnson material suits his voice so much better, this snippet sounds amazing:

It sounds so good because it was 8 years ago - his 5th octave has been unusable for a while now.    

Damn, great point! I didn't notice there was such a long time between the two performances, makes sense why he sounds so much worse now. He basically gave his all around the time of "Back in Black" for the AC/DC performances but seems like a lot of that strength has once again disappeared with age and further touring. That 2016 era vocal period was definitely brilliant for him, he nailed that AC/DC sound.

[mushymarionette]

Dec 6, 2023 18:30:19 GMT Osmosis said:

Sorry for the delay, but here's what I have Setzer , blazejecar2 :

• Monsters - D2 - A4 F5 F#5 (right at the end of the song)
• The General - D3 - C#5 Eb5 F5

There's maybe a low or something I'm missing in The General but I think that's it.

I still stand by "Monsters" having multiple A1s but I can't bother to die on this hill so

[Osmosis]

Slightly off an E5 here. "That Something" - a Hollywood Rose Demo


Also, I'm hearing an F#5 in the backing vocals in Civil War on the word "our", made clearer by the attached mix. I put it to Blazecar a while back thinking it was a G#5. He only heard it stay on Eb5 however, F#5 would make sense because then the backing vocals would be moving in parallel motion to the lead vocal.

[Hennessy Macklemore III]

Jul 9, 2024 13:41:30 GMT mushymarionette said:

Dec 6, 2023 18:30:19 GMT Osmosis said:

Sorry for the delay, but here's what I have Setzer , blazejecar2 :

• Monsters - D2 - A4 F5 F#5 (right at the end of the song)
• The General - D3 - C#5 Eb5 F5

There's maybe a low or something I'm missing in The General but I think that's it.

I still stand by "Monsters" having multiple A1s but I can't bother to die on this hill so

Better be ready to point out the specific words that they allegedly happen on then 

[glo]

Jun 12, 2024 22:17:14 GMT Setzer said:

Jun 5, 2024 4:07:14 GMT Hennessy Macklemore III said:

Here's something I wasn't really expecting...


B♭4s at 1:30, D♭5 at 1:42, E♭5s at 2:14 (and every chorus), and an F5 at 5:00. Shame the tone sounds like Dr. Rockso from Metalocalypse all the way through lol

All those notes sound like ass

The main issue is it’s a failed attempt at sounding belty. No body to it.

[Setzer]

Jul 14, 2024 12:47:52 GMT Osmosis said:

Also, I'm hearing an F#5 in the backing vocals in Civil War on the word "our", made clearer by the attached mix. I put it to Blazecar a while back thinking it was a G#5. He only heard it stay on Eb5 however, F#5 would make sense because then the backing vocals would be moving in parallel motion to the lead vocal.

Maybe I'm crazy, but it sounds like it's running too fast/high.